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go_poop_go t1_j46eywk wrote

Boston is no cakewalk, but any congestion study that doesn't place Los Angeles in the top 10 is deeply flawed.

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PLS-Surveyor-US t1_j46166h wrote

On our way to #1....go team :-o

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[deleted] t1_j4flfj2 wrote

Maybe if we elect more Charlie Baker dipshits the problem will be fixed

Soooo enlightened and centrist 🥴 oops I mean country club yuppie vanilla Puritan prep school

Fuckin morons masquerading as liberals get what is deserved

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5teerPike t1_j46b5gh wrote

Overcrowded streets designed for horse drawn craziness can do that

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mari815 t1_j49qzr8 wrote

I don’t find the traffic in the city that bad. It’s getting in and out

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MRBUNDLEs__ t1_j495lj5 wrote

Yeah it was always fucked but it was never as bad as it is now

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5teerPike t1_j4986df wrote

I still shudder at the prospect of the city hosting the Olympics

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Finglishman t1_j4897pe wrote

I think it’s safe to say that Boston traffic, while bad, is far away from being 4th worst in the world. The study basically covers cities in Europe and North America. I have a hard time believing Mexico City is better, but it’s been a while since I last sat in traffic there. There’s tens of cities in Asia with way worse traffic than anything I’ve seen in the west.

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JSalfredoSauce t1_j497unx wrote

Yeah, India specifically - I’ve heard horror stories about the traffic from my remote colleagues over in Bangalore

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Finglishman t1_j49s67s wrote

I lived in Bangalore/Bengaluru for 2 years. Like most westerners there I had a company car with a paid driver. My commute to the office was 6 or so miles. I remember several occasions when I decided to walk home instead of sitting in the endless traffic - and beating our driver to our house on foot. Most of the people who worked in my organization had over 3 hour long commute - one way!

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JSalfredoSauce t1_j4blzyj wrote

Yeah that checks out from what I heard - I also doubt it’s taking into account how safe and, comparably, orderly and well paved our roads are when comparing it to ALL cities worldwide. Traffic here sucks, but we can also maintain a healthy dose of perspective.

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movdqa t1_j46gizw wrote

I have to go to Logan on Monday morning. We're going to leave around 3:30 AM.

I was in Boston this past Monday and the prior Tuesday to drop off and pick up at South Station.

I normally drive in once or twice a week to maintain my mother's house. It is actually pretty easy if you can pick and choose the time of travel. After 7 PM going into Boston is usually fine. Arriving before 5 AM is usually fine too. There are some times of the day where you are usually okay.

It used to be that the rush hour was just an hour but now it's like three hours.

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noodle-face t1_j48tw93 wrote

Yeah rush hour starts around 3pm and ends around 7pm

Worked there for.a year and never again

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mari815 t1_j49r2ct wrote

My rush hour commute used to be 50 mins precovid now it’s minimum 1 hr, 15 mins

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movdqa t1_j4ayzzr wrote

That's 12 1/2 hours out of your life each week or about 625 hours (or 26 days) a year. That's a decent chunk of time that you could be using for other things that you may enjoy more.

We all have to do what we have to do but sometimes it feels like it's time to leave the rat race.

My longest commute was an hour but I was a contractor back then and I knew that it would only be for a couple of months. My job from the mid-1980s to 2020 had a commute of 20 minutes or less. That still adds up to a lot of time but it was a relaxing drive as there was no traffic to deal with.

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mari815 t1_j4bbusn wrote

Luckily I can work remote so I mainly do that - because you’re right, 2.5-3 hours in traffic a day is not a good way to spend time 5x per week. So I go into the office once or twice a week

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movdqa t1_j4bdeqe wrote

My son has the same issue. He goes in once every 2-3 months. I think that their normal requirement is once a month but the pandemic changed that. He had to work in the office daily when he started out but could work remotely after two years.

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iamspartacus5339 t1_j4br6wd wrote

I go to Logan every Monday, I live 30 miles away, and I leave by 5:30 and I’ve never hit traffic

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fakecrimesleep t1_j482oai wrote

There should be commuter rail to Boston from Nashua and Manchester NH - rt 3 and 93 are painful

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Bobbydadude01 t1_j46wk3r wrote

That's why they are expanding pedestrian/bike infrastructure.

Passenger vehicle traffic is a lost cause on cities like Boston.

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bostonmacosx t1_j47ayhv wrote

Ok let's think about this...most people in the city take/have access public transportation and parking is a nightmare. Most of the traffic is from 128 out/into the city where public transportation is severely lacking... sorry no one is biking/walking in 15 degree weather to get into the city....

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Bobbydadude01 t1_j47bd25 wrote

Ok let's think about this....

Bike and pedestrian infrastructure is for people already inside the city. It used to be normal for people inside the city to drive everywhere but that's been changing (due to better infrastructure)

For outside the city, they need to expand commuter rails and probably create a commuter bus system for the directly surrounding areas.

There is no way to solve the passenger vehicle traffic issue in Boston without lowering the amount of cars used.

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internetTroll151 t1_j4aw1f7 wrote

It was never normal for people who live in Boston to drive everywhere. People complain about the cost of living in Boston, no less that added expense of a parking space etc that isn’t needed.

The cars are Uber and people from outside the city.

The bike lanes are competing with public transportation.

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Bobbydadude01 t1_j4aw3xi wrote

Yes, it was. Uber didn't exist 30 years ago kid.

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internetTroll151 t1_j4awn0l wrote

Duh. That’s why traffic has gotten worse.

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/02/08/evidence-from-boston-that-uber-is-making-traffic-worse/

City is ranked #3 for people without cars

https://www.boston.com/news/jobs/2015/05/22/whats-different-about-boston-commuters/

In fact, a higher percentage of people walk to work in Boston than any other city in the U.S. at 14.5 percent. Boston ranks the third highest for percentage of people who take public transit to work, with 33 percent, behind New York and Washington, DC.

So tell me again about all these cars being taken off the road via bike lanes? Lol

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Hoosac_Love t1_j47qzca wrote

Boston is internationally classified as a Alpha minus city which is amazing for a city under a million.Only New York and London are Alpha plus and many many cities over a million are Beta cities.So for a city under a million to be Alpha minus is crazy amazing!

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techorules t1_j46l520 wrote

Is this the third or fourth repost?

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kwb28 t1_j48m67d wrote

I feel like DC/NoVA is way worse.

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Notmystationbro t1_j47l1hb wrote

Well when you design the roads like a 2yr old with a marker it comes to no surprise

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Wolfdogpump66 t1_j47lx6g wrote

Is this a surprise? The only industry that would remain safe in this state would be the company that makes those BEAUTIFUL ORANGE BARRELS that are on every road in the state….

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garvierloon t1_j48dmeh wrote

These people have NEVER heard of Los Angeles

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MRBUNDLEs__ t1_j495imw wrote

People complain about NEw york and I’m like yeah u haven’t been to Boston in the last ten years have ya 😂😂😂 legit prob the main reason I despise Boston now

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sheeplewatcher t1_j46ipjt wrote

Boston’s street traffic is compounded by the streets matching the contours of the original waters edge and then the harbor/rivers subsequently filled in and more streets added. On top of that, Boston is made up of annexed towns that each have their own street layout now combined into one city.

The highway system in Mass is half-assed. There should be at least 3 more highways going into/through Boston (Rt2/US 3, I-95, I-695). Not saying they should have been built but the current highways were designed with more in mind.

When they converted the highway funds to transit, The extension of the Red and Orange lines in the 70/80s could have helped, but again the effort was half assed. The red line extension stopped at Alewife instead of going out to Lexington and the Orange line stopped at Forest hills/Oak Grove instead of 128 Canton and Reading respectively.

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Frunk2 t1_j47ulu5 wrote

If boston had 5-6 highways going into the city there wouldn't be a city center it would just be highways and parking lots. If you dream of cities like this you can visit literally anywhere in middle america of the west coast that isn't chicago

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3720-To-One t1_j47sryf wrote

You can thank NIMBYs for preventing the red line extension.

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UltravioletClearance t1_j46q44s wrote

In fairness, the it didn't make sense to extend the Red Line into a wealthy rural town filled with single family homes on massive lots. They should have considered the Waltham route for the Red Line Extension. At least Downtown Waltham and the South Side are built up enough to justify rapid transit service, and the line could've served two college canpuses - Brandeis and Bentley University

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Capable-Still2060 t1_j48kaow wrote

The Big Dig was worth its money in just the clean air in Boston alone... Think of it as a managed car exhaust ventilation system.

And 91 is the only mass hwy I use.

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jaysun13 t1_j48u2ys wrote

Hear me out. Dig a massive tunnel but don’t let it get corrupt this time. Mass pike could use an extra lane all the way to Natick. But then what to do with 93

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SheeEttin t1_j4a3cs8 wrote

Ground it. Route through traffic via 128. Passengers going into Boston should use the T, which should be overhauled. And before anyone says "but muh work truck" I didn't say eliminate it. You can still drive in if you have a bunch of stuff. Same for shipping. Most car traffic is just passengers.

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DrinkAffectionate323 t1_j496aj4 wrote

The only time that Rush hour doesn't exist is between the hours of 10am-12pm now. Every damn day there's some accident.

Not to mention the weird drivers that feel the need to drive 40 mph in all three lanes for no reason, thus causing slow downs.

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mari815 t1_j49r8vv wrote

I’ve noticed that the left lane has become not a passing lane but a driving lane on 95 and it’s screwing up the traffic patterns.

Folks in the left lane you need to be going faster than the middle lane….it’s a passing lane

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fkenned1 t1_j49h2zf wrote

Not great, but I doubt it’s the fourth worst… lol

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sneakylyric t1_j49hrll wrote

Lol 4th worst IN THE WORLD?! Who are the top 3?

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mari815 t1_j49qx0f wrote

4th worst in the WORLD is saying something. Poor urban planning. Expanded the city in development with no consideration of transportation.

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Plus-Ad-6780 t1_j49ts5j wrote

Little late on your post. This news was from earlier in the week

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ShadowGLI t1_j49ypod wrote

I don’t believe it, Atlanta is 100% worse than Boston

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alagba85 t1_j4bc0ig wrote

This is a funny list. If you look at cities in Asia and Africa, there’d be no way Boston is #4. Also, where’s LA?

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fountain19 t1_j48rofi wrote

By a show of hands who's shocked?

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MRBUNDLEs__ t1_j4963vh wrote

Not me that’s what happens when u let idiots run the place 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Hot-Carrot-6407 t1_j46de5b wrote

Report:

You’re a wage slave peasant and half the country votes to allow wealthy people to rob you of your life because they were sold a bootstrap story and or think that just because they’re miserable so should you be

Erase boomer scum culture, erase conservative scum culture, don’t be friends with these sacks of shit, call them out, make them feel uncomfortable as they should be

There’s no other way and if you’re complicit you’re part of the problem

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