Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

Admiral45-06 t1_jacg7up wrote

Reply to comment by The-Catatafish in Anyone else stuck on step 1? by MagicSlay

The masturbation can have nocebo effect (placebo, but detrimental) for those who see it as somewhat immoral in their e.g. religion or overall moral code. Many especially religious and Conservative people claim higher feeling of guilt, anxiety, lower self-esteem and overall worse mental wellbeing after masturbation, especially when done regularly. Called ,,Italian effect", as it was first discovered during affect of masturbation on diffrent social groups, including religious and Conservative Italian youth.

2

The-Catatafish t1_jacqrt5 wrote

Sounds like religion has a nocebo effect not jerking off lmao.

In these cases sex before marriage or beeing gay would also have a nocebo effect by that logic.

Hell even a wet dream could be considered sinful and that is completely natural and out of your control.

However, the common denominator is a shitty set of morals from religion or conservative bullshit.

3

Admiral45-06 t1_jacr22x wrote

Statistically religious people are happier with their lives than non-religious, so I wouldn't be sure about that.

0

The-Catatafish t1_jadw6t3 wrote

What I said is objectivly true.

The negative effect has one common denominator and that is the believe of the person that what he does is wrong.

If he doesn't believe that the action has no negative impact.

Also, your source is trust me I guess? How would you rank that?

Statistically, people in prison are more likely to be religious.

1

Admiral45-06 t1_jadz43d wrote

  1. Other than abnormal release of dopamine and serotonin masturbation serves no purpose. There are also a lot of people, even non-religious, who feel good not doing this.
  2. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/01/31/religions-relationship-to-happiness-civic-engagement-and-health-around-the-world/
0

The-Catatafish t1_jaei301 wrote

  1. Wrong. If you are horny its just relief. Great that they feel great not doing this. There are also a lot of people who feel good doing this and don't suffer from any dopamine or serotonin issues. Most of the time it is related to porn.

  2. Great. I could now send you a source showing that people in prison are more likely to be religious and then tell you religious people commit more crimes.

Maybe then you understand the difference between causation and correlation. Or do you have any evidence that religion is making these people happy? Compared to every other thing they might do differently in their lifes?

Rhetorical question. You can't. Unless you have people who have so much in common that the only thing that differs is faith.

If you ask 500 women in long term relationships and 500 long term single men who is happy with their lifes chances are the women are happier.

Does that mean women are generally happier then men? This is so stupid.

1