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RiverVoice10 t1_jad96hw wrote

Casual drinking? That’s not an addiction…. If you’re able to pick up and put down any of these 3 substances easily that doesn’t constitute as a “problem”

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Televisi0n_Man t1_jad9esl wrote

Right- I have no idea what this is trying to say

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grillmoretacomeats t1_jadg60c wrote

Hey I talked to a friend about the AA program and he told me that the people there don't believe in stopping addiction without the program. He told me they believe you are going to start using again its only when, and that the program is the only way to really recover. Anyone else seen this response? He and I quit smoking for a year for him and 6 months for me. He also told me that when you fall off the program once its like becoming an outcast in the group. Im sure it helps people but he made it sound more like a click and it's ment to get good with God first then overcome your demons.

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willsmithsrightpalm t1_jadl62r wrote

My cousin had his license revoked for 5 years for a DUI and went to AA for drinking. He says the same shit. But he also thinks he's gonna get rich on metaverse land, believes all sorts of whacky conspiracies, is too good to ride a moped, chain smoke cigs and weed all day, hemorrhages my demented grandma's funds for his cigs and redbull, and literally lives in my grandma's basement for free. He's 31 btw.

He's only relapsed with alcohol once in the past couple years since his DUI that I'm aware of tho. So yeah putting it all in god's hands works! /s

I think what keeps him from drinking is actually fear of the even more terrible human he becomes, fears of getting arrested again, and/or fears of getting his ass kicked because he pissed someone off at a bar again.

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grillmoretacomeats t1_jadneic wrote

That sounds like elderly abuse. She shouldn't have to support anyone. I'm sorry about your grandmother.

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willsmithsrightpalm t1_jadomwp wrote

Thanks. It definitely borders (probably crosses the line at times) on abuse but she has caretakers who know about his problems and my parents live next door. The caretakers tell my mom everything so my mom and dad have to put him in his place every now and then.

He is an only child and sees me as the closest thing he has to a brother, so he lets his guard down and tells me everything. When he told me he was smoking/dealing weed with one of the caretakers I told my mom and got her ass fired immediately. If they're cool with him there's a chance they cover for him at the expense of my grandma's mental state, and if I have any control of the situation I will absolutely take action.

Kinda shady of me to act like I'm on his side to gather intel but it's in the best interest of my grandma. She is well looked after.

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Sensual_Pudding t1_jadpspz wrote

I would think that has a lot to do with your local chapter. My BiL runs a meeting here, and I don’t get that vibe at all.

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watch_over_me t1_jaeauic wrote

"If you do any of these daily, you got a problem, but they all love to point the finger at the other one."

Someone give me my cookie now.

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HighKiteSoaring t1_jaerjej wrote

Unpopular opinion maybe

But you can pick up any drug and do it casually

Booze, weed, cocaine, ketamine, psychedelics, doesn't matter

A drug doesn't make the addict it's a combination of lack of self control, poor impulse control and nothing to live for

Setting ground rules and sticking to them you can do anything

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Witch_King_ t1_jaexuvy wrote

Also some drugs are extremely addictive chemically and have far worse effects, so it's not worth ever doing them.

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HighKiteSoaring t1_jaezo92 wrote

I agree there

I have done plenty of drugs

There's some I wouldn't touch and will swear people off of

Like opiates for example. They're nowhere near as recreational as say MDMA or Mushrooms or Weed. However they are so addictive you'll sell your grandma for a hit

But.. I know 2x people personally and multiple people online who have shot up heroin once for a laugh and never went back

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Witch_King_ t1_jaf0n9w wrote

Those are just the lucky ones. Some people can take a hit without getting addicted, but I'm pretty sure after a second or even third, anyone would become addicted. And many people get hooked after just one.

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HighKiteSoaring t1_jaf227k wrote

It's not luck, it's fortitude

Some people can try every drug and never look back

Other people should never try any drug due to their lack of control

Which is why you should start small

If you get addicted to "weaker" drugs then draw a line in the sand and go no further

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ostangestar t1_jae2vct wrote

I dont think ive met a single person that uses nicotine that isnt addicted. Im not saying it isn't possible but that shit is so addictive its nearly impossible not to be addicted to it if you use it

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