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DingoLaChien t1_j9y842o wrote

If only we all had calculators in our pockets, oh...wait.

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matcha_me t1_j9y9cwy wrote

Actually you don't split the bill, you pay for what you had. Clearly the person who had the Persian Pancakes needs to pay GBP 1.50 more. 12.30 + 3.13/2 or 13.80 + 3.13/2 is a fair split.

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crackpotJeffrey t1_j9yb5f7 wrote

Why give me /2 it's literally the only one I can work out quickly in my head lol.

Give me /3 and /5 that's more helpful

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icelandichorsey t1_j9ychsl wrote

If this is eben mildly interesting you ought to go out more, sorry

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GSPilot t1_j9yeaw1 wrote

Is it common in the UK to have the “gratuity” added to your tab?

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manlywho t1_j9yh5wl wrote

Wait a minute, I thought the US was the only chumps paying “gratuity”…

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Desperate-Peter-Pan t1_j9ylder wrote

I thought there was no tipping there? I thought America was the only place where tips are expected.

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trbo91 t1_j9ysb48 wrote

Know exactly which place it is based on the bill

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LucaPaciolo t1_j9yu90i wrote

I find it more interesting that it comes with mandatory gratuity.

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my_shout t1_j9yxf08 wrote

Not even discretion on how much you want to tip?

YOU PAY NOW!

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Lower_Echo9152 t1_j9yxpt6 wrote

Seems useful in case both myself and the person I went out with forgot how the calculator on our phones work

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RNG_HatesMe t1_j9yz9ls wrote

Fun "tip" (and I know this doesn't apply in the UK):

"Mandatory" or "Automatic" gratuities like this in the US are *not* legally considered tips, but are classed as "service fees". - https://shavitzlaw.com/mandatory-gratuities-are-not-tips-but-may-be-considered-commissions/

Historically (since 2012 or so), this has meant that a restaurant cannot count it towards the service workers wage.

But, recently, a federal district court (the 5th, in Florida) decided that since they are fees, not tips, the restaurant may, at their own discretion, keep those "gratuities" for themselves and have no obligation to distribute them to staff.

So, at least in the US, if you see a gratuity listed on a bill, don't assume that your server will see *any* of that money. If you care about that, ask if you can pay the non-gratuity portion normally, and give the "gratuity" portion to your server in cash. (I'm not saying they are required to allow you to do that).

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Kohpad t1_j9z36qr wrote

Replying to qwertymanman (#1,994,312)

Is it really? I've only done it twice because I'll accept some pretty shite service, but both times it felt pretty painless. I had pretty legitimate gripes and the manager agreed, easy.

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vaspat t1_j9z5909 wrote

Replying to Desperate-Peter-Pan (#1,995,101)

No, tipping exists everywhere in Europe, it's just an actual tipping amount, not i'm-paying-you-most-of-your-wage amount. 5 (good service, no complaints) to 10 (outstanding service) %. If you tip 20-25%, like is now becoming customary in the US, they will think that you're either a dumb american or a crazy person.

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HessLook t1_j9z66rg wrote

Ok, so what are Persian pancakes?! Lmao

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Captain_Naps t1_j9z972c wrote

Replying to crackpotJeffrey (#1,992,944)

Our POS system prints one total bill but has a 'split (X)' option so an equal number can be had no matter the number of guests, if that's their wish. Separate cheques per seat can be doled out as well. Options galore. The customer need only ask.

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karimamin t1_j9zhsd3 wrote

Ugh tipping culture has spread across the ocean. Is Persian Pancake a code for happy ending?

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theveryrealreal t1_j9zix8m wrote

They totally did all the work for you! Hardly a hint. You'll never learn with these kind of hand outs.

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Nice_Abroad982 t1_j9zkktc wrote

Mandatory gratuity as if they are saying you MUST be grateful

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sjmp75020 t1_j9zm7qs wrote

Replying to Captain_Naps (#1,999,379)

Sitting there trying to add up everything you had like a child is ridiculous. Just split the bill equally and enjoy your time with your friends. Better yet, you pay the entire bill and don’t worry about it.

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Captain_Naps t1_j9zodry wrote

Replying to sjmp75020 (#2,001,700)

If there's a group of us, we just let the server know that we'll be asking for separate cheques, or cheques as couples, etc. They keep us separated by-seat and it's easy to pay your own way. As a non-drinker I'm not paying an equal share of their bottle of DRC. Fuck that. You pick up that tab.

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SoNic67 t1_j9zwkko wrote

I though that Europeans are proud that they don't have to tip their waitress. Because they are "paid well enough".

"Gratuity" 12% is then... what?

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SoNic67 t1_j9zx338 wrote

Replying to qwertymanman (#1,994,006)

In US isn't mandatory either. You can walk out without paying the tip, is not even on the bill.

But, like in UK, if you try to eat there another time... gross stuff can land accidentally in your food.

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herandy t1_j9zy1g3 wrote

WTF is a Persian pancake? (P.S. I'm Persian)

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beatmaster808 t1_ja04h8i wrote

Oh my god, I could never ever figure that--it's $15

I'll pay extra for the tip cause mine was more

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Nangiyala t1_ja089t2 wrote

Is that an American Style Café as it comesvwith the bill the American Way?

Gratitude included in the bill, hint for splitting the bill?

Last time I visited a Café, the tip was up to me to add to the bill and the bill was not split, but everyone payed for the stuff they had consumed.

Ps: realy, what is it with the tip included in the bill, something for the tax? Or why is it done?

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SoNic67 t1_ja09pjp wrote

Replying to Spiritual-Wind-3898 (#2,005,668)

But it is on the bill. It's either compulsory or they are trying to steal from you.

The fact that they take it off if you ask is irrelevant. They can take off the whole order if they wanted, it's their bill, their business.

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bmanley620 t1_ja0ed39 wrote

And they get an extra penny out of it. Clever bastards

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SunliMin t1_ja0etrq wrote

Replying to BillyShears2015 (#2,004,303)

Technically they are different things though

Tip = Voluntary, and can be any amount. You can tip 1%, 10%, 30%, etc

Gratuity = Automatically added extra amount

When you decide to give you waiter 20%, that's a tip. When the restaurant enforces a 20% mandatory addition to pay their staff, that's gratuity

The culture differences is that in America (and Canada), tips are expected, and not tipping is very disrespectful. In the EU, tipping is not expected. It doesn't mean some places won't try to swindle you and charge gratuity, but it isn't the norm, and it upsets customers since they likely wouldn't have tipped on their own

England is also very different from the rest of the EU. Their culture is the hybrid of EU and North America. Similar to how Canadians use both metric and imperial, UK does as well for example

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You_Say_Uncle t1_ja0mn9o wrote

And if you cook it yourself you can eat all week for the same price.

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sjmp75020 t1_ja0o850 wrote

Replying to Geek55 (#2,007,869)

Nope. Just the opposite. I’m usually the one ordering something simple. I also worked my way through college and law school waiting a lot of tables and I know how not to be the asshole who wastes the server’s time splitting up the check a million ways. Another pro tip: increase your tip according to the amount of time you spend socializing.

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Regnes t1_ja0rt9b wrote

How is it a hint if it just gives you the answer?

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lawfulkitten1 t1_ja0zx46 wrote

Replying to BillyShears2015 (#2,004,303)

even in the US it's different. places that charge gratuity for large parties generally won't let you remove it, but if you go to that same restaurant as a party of 1-2 they might default to 0% tip and you can choose what amount you want to tip (including nothing)

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VegaKH t1_ja1kj6m wrote

And it's incorrect. I'd like it to at least use the little curly equals signs there. ≈

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RockRevolutionary182 t1_ja1mnts wrote

That's because people are becoming so dumb. I think it was something they put in the vaccine. If you ever seen the show supernatural and the season with the Leviathan when they were making the humans docile so they can eat them easier that that right there is what there up to. A byproduct of that Is having to put warnings on things like Tide laundry soap pods Because if they don't people eat will eat them. And it is why they have to show how to split a cafe bill into two.

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RockRevolutionary182 t1_ja1nol2 wrote

Replying to SunliMin (#2,006,514)

Ok that was interesting. I've always hated the metric system but now I wish we were using it only in the US It makes things so much simpler. When they made up the imperial system Dad a meeting with all the smartest dudes and they were like dude how could we look superior to all the people? So the one dude said why don't we make measurements super hard and confusing. They did things like to abbreviate inch let's make it two lines up top and for foot one it'll confuse them because logically you would think 2 lines would be feet and 1 inches because 2 is larger. Then another dude was like dudddddde let's break it down so you can say different numbers in different ways and they all mean the same thing. Example 1/2 " is the same as 32/64 it's the same as 4/8 and 16/32. My dudes that is how the imperial system was born. When they got done with that they named themselves the Democrats.

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SoNic67 t1_ja2f7vj wrote

Replying to Riegler77 (#2,009,923)

Yeah, contradict the reality. Because that's on the this post picture.

And it's not the only time I see that in Europe. Almost every time are 4 people or more at a table, they will put that on, and is not negotiable.

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WatermelonWithAFlute t1_ja78avx wrote

Replying to HalfnHalfCoffeeJelly (#2,006,874)

not gonna do the research to tell if what you just said is even remotely true or not because i don't care. Reason tipping is a big thing in america is because it's a way to be able to pay your workers less by offloading costs onto your customers. that's it. that's the whole reason. Little to do with subjective superiority.

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