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1feralengineer t1_iuf7ucg wrote

How close do you live to a nuclear power plant?

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PasgettiMonster OP t1_iuf8bqf wrote

Lol.

Based on conversations with people in the vegetable gardening sub it's because I used seeds that someone saved from their garden and gave to me and the variety of tomato that they saved the seeds from is a hybrid and is not stable so future generations don't necessarily come out looking like the parent plant. I have a total of four plants and every one of them produces slightly different tomatoes despite the seeds coming from the same batch. I'm hoping at least some of these have seeds because I want to save them to see what they do in the next generation.

Tomatos were super tasty and my plant is covered in hundreds of them, mostly still green so this will be fun!

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BigHawkSports t1_iug50tz wrote

Not sure it's true of every variety but you can sometimes successfully clone tomato plants.

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PasgettiMonster OP t1_iug59e9 wrote

I am planning on doing that. However I was curious to see what the following generation would look like. If it's unstable it's possible I'll get completely different results with each generation so it would have been fun to keep it going and see what happened. These were some of the smaller skinny tomatoes on the plant that ripened first. There are some more that are larger so hopefully I'll manage to coax a couple of seeds out of those.

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MaxMouseOCX t1_iuhutxs wrote

How are they? I wonder if there's a market for seedless tomatoes...

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PasgettiMonster OP t1_iuifx9g wrote

They were pretty good! Nice strong tomatoey taste and slightly sweet. I've only tried 2 of them so far (they're only just starting to turn red) and the larger of the 2 had what looked like an underdeveloped seed - kind of like how seedless watermelons have those thin white seeds that you can just eat.

I'm still deciding how I want to preserve them - the plant is absolutely covered in fruit, and in a few days I am about to have way more weird tomatoes than I can handle. With so little of the usual seed/pulp they might be a good candidate for dehydrating since I usually scoop that stuff out before drying them.

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MaxMouseOCX t1_iuikdtn wrote

I don't know if there's a way to keep the plant as it is, cuttings... Splicing? I'm looking at your tomatoes and thinking "hmm... That might have commercial value".

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PasgettiMonster OP t1_iuivy8i wrote

https://www.reddit.com/r/propagation/comments/x4f1vz/my_water_propped_tomato_cutting_is_growing_a/

Tomatoes root very easily in water and can be transplanted into soil. I should take several cuttings from these and root them, and a bunch of pictures of the resulting tomatoes and see if I can't sell them in the spring. I was going to try with my regular tomatoes since it really doesn't cost me anything to do that beyond some time, but for some reason never thought of doing it with these, which might get more money due to being a novelty.

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MaxMouseOCX t1_iuiwoh6 wrote

Seriously, have a go... Candyfloss grapes were an accident, many other cool things were too, might be worth exploring.

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PasgettiMonster OP t1_iuixx13 wrote

I know others who have grown this variety of tomato from saved seeds have gotten similar results. I just messaged the other person who told me they got weird skinny tomatoes to ask if there's had any seeds. I will definitely save several cuttings from this one plant to try to keep it going. at some point I'm going to have to figure out how people get seeds for seedless fruit though because I've got quite the reputation for managing to kill off all my plants. This is my first year actually having a garden and keeping things alive for more than a few months at a time.

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MaxMouseOCX t1_iuj4yo5 wrote

Cuttings and root stock grafts (really interesting and pleanty of it on YouTube if you fancy a dive into it).

For example, you can graft grape cuttings onto quince roots and they'll grow just fine.

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PasgettiMonster OP t1_iuj5wn3 wrote

You can also graft tomatoes onto a potato plant for what's called a ketchup and fries plant. I don't particularly want to grow potatoes. They're cheap and fun full at the store and I would rather focus my energy on things that cost more money or are harder to find like interesting varieties of eggplants or fancy salad greens. That said the novelty of growing a plant that will produce both tomatoes and potatoes definitely has me intrigued and I think I'll give it a try this spring.

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MaxMouseOCX t1_iujbw2g wrote

Good luck, and chuck me a couple of grand if you end up the seedless tomato kingpin, have a good one bud, much love from England!

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pelvviber t1_iuf804i wrote

To be fair, they are a similar plant.

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Odd_Advance3212 t1_iuf8m3k wrote

Pretty sure cause they aren't ready to be picked yet? Maybe idk really lol js

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PasgettiMonster OP t1_iuf9f2k wrote

Nope. Once a tomato starts to change color it's done growing. It can be left on the plant to turn red but you risk insect and bird damage, so as soon as they start to show even a hint of orange I'm starting to pick them to let them ripen indoors. This is a second generation seed from a hybrid variety. Normally you're not supposed to save those seeds to grow them because you can get unpredictable results since the hybridization is not stable and you can get all kinds of weird results. I have four plants that I grew from the seeds and all of them have slightly different shaped tomatoes.

Also, tomatoes generally grow in the shape they're going to be when they are full size. Round tomatoes start off as tiny little round green tomatoes and get bigger and roma tomatoes which are more oval shape start off as tiny little ovals and proportionately grow bigger. None that I have grown start off skinny and get fatter as they grow.

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Odd_Advance3212 t1_iufafyi wrote

Aww wow cool thanks for the info I'm not a big tomatoe fan at all obviously lol I thought they were not ripened enough lol I will occasionally eat one sliced with a bit of salt although I wish I did like them more because they are good for you.

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PasgettiMonster OP t1_iufbzi0 wrote

I hated tomatoes as a kid. They were watery and just blah. As an adult I started trying to eat more in season instead of trying to buy tomatoes in January when they are completely out of season. The difference in quality was unreal. Different varieties also have very different flavors. If you wish that you liked tomatoes more I would suggest going to somewhere like a farmers market where you can probably find different varieties of tomatoes than the same few that show up in the grocery stores. that's one of the reasons why I started gardening is because I want to grow varieties of fruits and vegetables that are actually tasty, and not grown for the mass Market because they survive storage and transport to grocery stores really well. you're more likely to be able to find those varieties in farmers market and local fruit stands where people are selling the stuff they grew locally. With tomatoes especially, the grocery store ones have been sitting in a refrigerator while being transported and that affects the flavor of them. fresh tomatoes from the garden that have never been refrigerated are completely different.

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