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[deleted] t1_iu9vk0p wrote

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lynivvinyl t1_iu9w9cf wrote

The cousin might get in trouble for these leaked pics. Especially of unfinished work.

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Orcle123 t1_iubobge wrote

especially because its unfinished work that doesn't look pristine quality, making gibson look bad if people dont know how much there is left to do

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[deleted] t1_iu9xbgc wrote

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bshaddo t1_iubvu1w wrote

They might find out about it by Monday, but I think it’s going to be a long, long time.

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slayez06 OP t1_iu9y71e wrote

He's not under any nda or anything like that and I'm pretty sure many people post pics of the work they do... my cousins fb feed is nothing but pics of guitars he is working on and nature. This one is mildly interesting but some of the ones he works on are beyond insane...

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slayez06 OP t1_iua1p02 wrote

eh he posted it weeks ago and has shared other famous ppls orders in the past...because of the amount of pics he posts I'm pretty sure it's all good...here is some other cool pics he has shared https://imgur.com/a/W5p2wuA

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because_of_ghosts t1_iua6l3x wrote

I know someone who made the assumption “it’s all good” based on previous experience. Got sued to absolute shit.

Anyone who makes assumptions regarding their income is an idiot, regardless of talent.

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lynivvinyl t1_iua249n wrote

Woo weeeee those last 2 pictures!

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lynivvinyl t1_iua28x4 wrote

I'd throw those last 2 on r/guitarporn.

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slayez06 OP t1_iua9hrg wrote

I'm not jokin when I say he posts tons of crazy pics down to the trees the source they wood from. he truly has many peoples dream job and has worked with them for a long long time.

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minenangel t1_iuckzxv wrote

Dude, you just missed the chance to rickroll all of us

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montwhisky t1_iuc34t2 wrote

I’m an attorney, and I have no idea what you’re talking about. Unless there’s an NDA, which he already said there wasn’t, you just made a bunch of shit up because this guy’s cousin is way cooler than you are. But, seriously, stop pretending like things are fireable offenses or carry some sort of liability when they don’t.

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Single-Project6326 t1_iud3bv5 wrote

Yeah In tn which is where I think Gibson Is located.. any job can fire you for any reason In tn..or no reason at all

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montwhisky t1_iudfs6c wrote

He’s located in Bozeman, Montana. Which is where the Gibson specialized guitars are made. And, as a Montana attorney, I can assure you that we do not have at-will employment. You can only be fired for cause in Montana, and that’s a really high legal standard. Thanks for playing “I don’t know what I’m talking about.”

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[deleted] t1_iuc3zqv wrote

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montwhisky t1_iudg8ov wrote

Jfc I have to explain this a million times to idiots. Montana does not have at-will employment. You can only be fired “for cause” here, and thanks to some really great cases, that’s a pretty high standard. So go crawl back into your hole because where this guy lives, he’s not getting fired just because some fucktard on the internet thinks he should.

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montwhisky t1_iudk3je wrote

Yep, we sure are. And happy to have everyone else think we’re cunts so they’ll stay the fuck out of our state.

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PAdogooder t1_iud3z38 wrote

If you’re an attorney, you should

1. Know how exhausting it is to hear people start sentences with “I’m an attorney”. 
  1. You should know that “fireable offenses” have nothing to do with anymore in our capitalist hellscape.

  2. You don’t need any more liability than anyone upstream who sees this photo and didn’t want it to be public. That could be Elton just wanting to be private. That could be someone who bought it for Elton not wanting the surprise ruined. That could be a manager who wants to be able to promise future customers discretion.

So…. Go be a lawyer somewhere else where you know what you’re talking about.

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montwhisky t1_iudg0ro wrote

I’m a lawyer in Montana, where his cousin lives. So I’m pretty sure my knowledge about the employment laws in Montana are relevant. You, on the other hand, have no idea what you’re talking about. Go play expert somewhere else.

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PAdogooder t1_iue428x wrote

Lol- of course it’s Montana, the one state in the union where employment law is still almost ok.

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NotXiJinpingGoUSA t1_iuc7eei wrote

I dont think Elton John gives a shit, he is a wildly extravagant person and he would show off this shit the instant he got it

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UnacceptableUse t1_iud5wu8 wrote

If Elton John wanted it to remain secret he would've just ordered it under a different name.

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wclevel47nice t1_iucnk11 wrote

Yeah but his manager? Labels?

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slayez06 OP t1_iucsagq wrote

then they should get nda's. Seriously people miss understand privacy laws all the time..Hell there are people who think musk bought twitter just to ban the guy tracking his plane...because there was 0 legal recourse for that.gif

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NeverPlayF6 t1_iucvedt wrote

Ah yes... the "free speech means I can say whatever I want with no consequences" defense.

0 legal recourse does not mean "free from consequences."

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slayez06 OP t1_iue74wu wrote

free speech means you don't go to jail and speech and privacy laws are two totally separate things.

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NeverPlayF6 t1_iuf143p wrote

Swing! And a miss! You were so close, too.

It's a shame Reddit doesn't have crayon fonts...

OK. Here we go. Just because there is no NDA does not mean that OP can post these pictures completely free from consequences.

Let's say that Elton John sees his name attached to a fairly crappy looking guitar. And then he says "hey, Gibson, why are your people posting all of these pics of my guitar? And why does it look like shit?"

And then the Gibson exec sends out an email to all the managers asking, "why are people posting pics of partially finished guitars that look like shit, and claiming that Elton John is actually paying for this crap? Find out who did it and fire them. They should know better."

And then OP is fired. Consequences for actions... no NDA in sight.

I have seen several people fired for posting pictures of stuff at work.

Much like free speech doesn't mean I can tell my boss to "eat a dick" without expecting to get written up/fired... not having an NDA does not give people the freedom to post pictures of things at work and not suffer consequences. All it means is that Elton John can't sue for breach of contract or recover losses from posting the pictures.

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slayez06 OP t1_iufd3ws wrote

Nobody said free speech and it wouldn't be a free speech issue I would be a privacy issue and that is where you were so close too. Also self proclaimed Montana lawyers have piped in as well and said it's not a right to work state and more like a union. The worst that could happen is policy change and training.

Also I don't think it looks like shit because I know exactly what was done to it and what was lacking still.. dam thing will be perfect by the time it's finished.

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NeverPlayF6 t1_iuftcu1 wrote

I didn't say it looked like shit. I was giving a hypothetical based on what people might think.

And no- if there is a company policy against posting pictures or if posting the pictures brings severe consequences to the company, then there will absolutely be consequences for the poster. I've worked for union companies. Theybalways have a catch-all policy for "don't do stupid things." If you fuck up so bad that you cause serious problems, then it can absolutely cause problems.

Unless explicit permission has been given, then posting pictures like this is a horrible idea. No matter how many "but if... but iffs..." you come up with, the question is legitimate and it absolutely does not fall to "tHeRe ISn'T aN nDA!!1!1!!"

Maybe the company does allow this. Then fantastic. But that info wasn't provided. So, unquestionably, there is a concern about posting these pictures.

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