Are violent crazy concept movies the next big thing?

Submitted by TylerSpicknell t3_11dtxlo in movies

With movies like "Violent Night" and "Cocaine Bear" dominating the box office I imagine a trend of new movies where crazy concepts with lots of blood, gore, and violence and even heartwarming stuff coming up soon, especially if it's relatively low-budget (somewhere between $20 million and $50 million).

And before you say anything, I know Cocaine Bear is loosely based on a true story but it's VERY LOOSELY as the bear in real life never went on a rampage. That's why it's a crazy concept, because they took a true story and made a crazy action movie with it!

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Pope00 t1_jaauod5 wrote

I’m not sure about the “violent crazy concepts” part of it, but I think it’ll definitely help change the state of movies. Don’t get me wrong, I love Marvel, but I’m just so very tired. I think fatigue is setting in for everybody. The last few films getting less than stellar responses is a sign of the times.

People want to just go see a fun movie. Both Violent Night and Cocaine Bear are films that are just good, fun movies. I don’t think the violence bit is what’s drawing people in. Maybe the unexpected nature of the violence. “Lol Santa killing people. Lol the bear did cocaine. Lol the killer robot is a little girl.”

If it’s entertaining, people will go see it. Hopefully these films show studios that. We want entertainment, not a shallow story with Spider-Man doing flips in front of a green screen.

(Note: absolutely nothing wrong with Spider-Man. But a lot of the recent MCU films/shows feel like there’s no heart. Like they’re just cash grabs.)

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HEHEHO2022 t1_jaaxsvo wrote

Replying to Pope00 (#2,086,468)

problem is violent night and cocaine near are nothing special. general audiences need to better their taste and go out more to watch really well made cinema too..

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LoveEffective1349 t1_jaaxxo2 wrote

Only since Jaws dominated the box office, invented the Blockbuster, and changed Hollywood forever….

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Pope00 t1_jab0m6y wrote

Replying to HEHEHO2022 (#2,087,447)

There is no problem. You can enjoy goofy dumb movies as well as high quality “well made” cinema as well.

What does that even mean exactly? Not every meal needs to be filet mignon. Just because a movie isn’t high brow doesn’t mean it should be looked down upon. The purpose of film is to entertain. If it can do that and elevate you in some way or challenge your way of thinking or spark a deep discussion about the human condition, then great!

But suggesting someone enjoying cocaine bear is someone with no taste is, in itself, in poor taste.

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HEHEHO2022 t1_jab4072 wrote

Replying to Pope00 (#2,088,248)

then why arent general audiences loving both. they are happy watching something dumb and shallow,which of course they have the right to, but they almost ignore really well crafted films that are also entertaining

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Pope00 t1_jabart8 wrote

Replying to HEHEHO2022 (#2,089,188)

Dude what are you talking about? Who's they? Everything Everywhere All At Once made over $100 million at the box office. People didn't ignore that movie. Banshees at Inisherin made $45 million at the box office and that's absolutely not a big dumb action/gore fest. It's a film about two friends having a friend breakup.

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While an action movie and not an indie drama, I'd say that Top Gun Maverick is still an amazing film. It's nominated for best picture and it should be. Great writing, directing, acting. The story is fantastic, the cinematography is incredible. It made 1.4 billion at the box office.

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It's a no brainer that indie films typically get less attention because.. they're indie films. They don't have the same advertising money that big budget films get. They often get put into fewer theaters across the country.

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But either way, you're putting people into a box. Anyone who goes to enjoy Cocaine Bear won't also watch "quality" films. That's just an ignorant mindset. Fuck, I saw Cocaine Bear and had fun at the theater. I also think Banshees of Inisherin is one of the finest films I've seen in the last .. I don't know how many years. It's possible to enjoy both.

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carson63000 t1_jabl7jm wrote

>and even heartwarming stuff

Not gonna lie, my heart was super warmed by >!Cocaine Bear bringing the bag of coke back to its den so the two bear cubs could do some lines as well!<

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Double-Seaweed7760 t1_jacg3ua wrote

Replying to Pope00 (#2,086,468)

I love following the MCU storyline And feel like they've done the best job possible adapting comics and never want it to end but I really wish they'd go darker, more like 90s blade and an fox X-Men or damn near any dc film. I'm tired of all MCU properties feeling the same.

Edit: and ya I wish there was more successful film outside of comic book movies, I'm also not the biggest fan of the trend op is talking about because I don't feel like I'd like the movies any more than laughing at the idea which I can get from the trailer just as much as the movie but I agree it may be evidence that the movie audience as a whole may want something new and fresh that's not comic book related

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Pope00 t1_jaclusp wrote

Replying to HEHEHO2022 (#2,096,187)

God film snobs that are not even real film snobs are the absolute worst. Do I need to list more films for you? I didn't because I didn't expect a smartass response. Ok, going off the current 2023 Oscar film lineup, The Fablemans made 30 million and Tar made 15 million. Which, to be fair surprised me. People are going to the movies to see good movies. Learn to be less judgmental.

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Btw, can you even name a thousand films? Never mind thousands*.* And again, I listed three examples btw. Everything Everywhere All At Once, Banshees of Inisherin, and Top Gun Maverick. Unless you want to not count Top Gun because it's an action film. In which case you're an absolute pretentious try-hard. Which I think you are anyway.

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I'm not some anomaly. There are other movie goers like myself. I try to go see every Marvel movie that comes out, no matter how bland and cookie cutter they may be. They're often fun and colorful with some fun action pieces. I also pay monthly for the Criterion streaming service. I regularly watch classic films and I also like to turn off my brain and watch dumb Adam Sandler comedies. I'm not so pretentious that I act like watching a dumb film somehow ruins my palate.

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Given how harshly you're judging people who go to the movies and assuming every one of them is a brainless dullard just makes me think you must not have very many friends. I'd think maybe you'd be jealous of the folks going to the theater to see Cocaine Bear because they're going with other people.

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mickeyflinn t1_jacr6mf wrote

Violent Night made 76 Mill? Is that what counts as dominating the box office now a days?

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WhereIsThatElephant t1_jaeudte wrote

The only thing Cocaine Bear is dominating is this subreddit, with constant movie extras placed "discussions" to promote this new Sharknado.

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