Maybe I missed it, but :
>!why did the 4 horsemen have to die? Their deaths were the reason for the disasters. Why didn't they just not kill each other?!<
Other than that, the film was ok. I don't think it made an impression on me, but I did like Rupert Grint, I think he played his character well. Some of the lines were a bit cheesy such as "you love was the purest" or something like that. That felt forced.
They believed in their shared visions, which may have told them they had to do that, but it was also supposed to motivate Andrew and Eric to make their choice. Because if they don’t sacrifice one of them, innocents will die. Kind of accenting that.
I guess that still doesn't make sense to me. If they don't die, they don't have to make the choice. It was emotional blackmail.
Essentially yes, but it was showing them their choices had consequences.
It probably shouldn’t make sense to non cult people, although the ending shows they were right.
Leonard also says once the four of them are dead and they didn’t make their choice it would be too late to stop it.
However >!Eric killed himself, which Leonard said wouldn’t be enough, and everything stops. This suggests he was lying, or at least adding his own details.!<
I think Eric's partner killed him. He didn't kill himself.
It happens offscreen, but Eric believed and said he would do it as Andrew was the non believer.
Also, either way it was still after all the horsemen were dead, so it shouldn’t have worked but it seems like it did, so Leonard was also still lying about that.
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Yeah it was ok.
Thing is M Night is so known for twists that expecting a twist almost becomes a distraction. This was all pretty straight forward even though I think we were supposed to questioning if it was really happening or not.
If you look up the book plot you'll understand a little more about why the movie feels off-huge changes were made to the third act.
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I believe it is what they were fated to do based on their visions, and they could not deviate from their plans. They wanted to save the world. If the horsemen just walked away, they believed that humanity would die. >!Each of them (except for maybe Redmond) had loved ones they were trying to get back to or at least save)!<. It's alluded to (and assumed) that the disasters were on a set schedule and were not going to be stopped without a sacrifice. Their deaths were symbolic and to push the choice that Andrew and Eric were required to make. If the couple had made the choice to sacrifice at the beginning, or before >!Leonard's death!<, then one or more horsemen would have survived.
It was so that the family could feel direct sacrifice/loss directly to convey the outward situation in the world. Also, 1,000,000 deaths is a statistic while 1 single death can be felt as a tragedy.
The way I understood it, their deaths were foretold. They were destined to die - they saw it in their visions and believed it. They didn’t have a choice but to die.
Their deaths were not the reason for the disasters, the family’s failure to choose was the reason for the disasters.
The only way to save them and the rest of the world was for the family to make their choice.
What I found inconsistent was that we were told the family had to choose together, but in the end it was more like one of them made a sacrifice against the will of the others.
To really, REALLY convince the happy, gay family that they had to be destroyed because of Christian dogma.
Daigoro0734 t1_jdtixw4 wrote
Leonard explained before his own demise that it was their job to make Andrew and Eric witness so that they understood that it was real and they could see and experience it first hand , its purpose was to show the harshness to get one of them to choose to save the world imo. Redmond even told them to witness and not to look away.