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danielhol OP t1_jdh9l0i wrote

"You finding it boring says a lot about you and your ability to think about these things."

Okay, a few things here.

I said that she keeps the film morally in check and that without her, the film doesn't shine a light on the bad and illegal stuff going on in the world. If I didn't have the ability to think about these things, I wouldn't of made that point.

Secondly, I think it's naive to say that people don't know this sort of stuff goes down. I would take a guess and say that you are probably aware that a lot of shady shit goes on around the world. There's literally thousands of films, TV series, video games and books that touch on this subject in a number of different ways. And the reality is that this stuff does go down all over the world, there's bad guys, and bad guys to fight the bad guys.

And in terms of "I'm fine with it or don't want to think about it", I don't know how you can read my mind but no, I don't think that these things that happen in the world are morally right or justifiable under the guise of 'cool black ops shit', but I can however acknowledge that it goes on in terms of the films narrative. I don't really understand how you can say that to a stranger on the internet, I mean, are you doing anything in your life to think about and make changes on the subject of torture, the drug trade? If so, great, but I highly doubt it, so that's kind of a put your money where your mouth is statement to say to me that "I'M fine with it".

I agree that it is a morality tale, but sometimes you don't need someone to hold your hand throughout the film to state or constantly show you that what's going on is wrong or immoral. That's what frustrated me about Kate in the film, her consistently every ten minutes reminding the audience that what's going on isn't okay just felt like pandering at times. That's my only very small complaint about the film.

In the second film, I cannot fathom how anyone could watch the film and not think that you know what they're doing is illegal or immoral. The scene where Alejandro guns down that politician or lawyer in the street should immediately jump out at you. I mean, if you placed Kate or someone who had to play the role of the morality police in the second film, I highly doubt it would of been a better film.

And to be honest, the fact that Kate is defeated in the first film and there isn't someone in the second film doing the same thing speaks volumes more to me in terms of morality, because it shows that this is a constant revolving door in the world of endless violence and immoral acts and that there aren't enough morally "good" people like Kate who can get high enough (position wise) to stop these sorts of things from happening or make real change.

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