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To_The_Past t1_iujr7bu wrote
They were widely recognised as such as soon as they were released and the reception hasn't changed.
pabloisdrunk t1_iujo12m wrote
The Return of the King literally won Best Picture
meowskywalker t1_iujpitv wrote
What world do you live in? While I have to give you credit for not using the word “underrated” this is the same “does anyone else think [beloved film] is underrated?” post again. Of course everyone thinks Lord of the Rings is amazing. They didn’t stretch the hobbit out to three films and then spend three quarters of a billion dollars on a television prequel because people don’t like this series.
slackerdc t1_iujo6qq wrote
It's sort of understood that the oscars Return of the King won was for the entire trilogy.
Other-Marketing-6167 t1_iujoh89 wrote
…you posted the same thing over here as you did on r/flicks? I’m annoyed at myself for commenting twice now on this silliness.
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Peter_Mansbrick t1_iujxa3c wrote
What? This post is trash but suggesting that cross posting is only done by karma farming accounts is absurd.
Iloveindianajones OP t1_iujy8ve wrote
No, it's not trash. Why are you saying that? Do you think I did bad by crossposting?
Also, I did not crosspost, I copied and pasted. What is wrong with you people?
Peter_Mansbrick t1_iujyqth wrote
It's a bad post because it implies that your opinion on those films is rare when it very much isn't.
I was defending you posting it twice though.
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Iloveindianajones OP t1_iujyfdn wrote
What are you getting at? I have enough karma, no I am not selling the account. And why are you telling me to fuck off? So rude.
Also, I did not crosspost, I copied and pasted. What is wrong with you people?
lizzpop2003 t1_iujntq6 wrote
They already are... they are recognized on the AFI top 100 and regularly come up in the conversation as among the best ever made.
These sorts of posts always annoy me as they largely either try to elevate movies that aren't that good in the first place or they proclaim films that are widely praised as being somehow underrated. A quick Google search of the films would tell you how they are viewed in the context of history though.
Take a look at any of the best of all time lists and it is likely one of the trilogy, if not the whole thing is on there.
ScrapMetalDrone t1_iujq9u2 wrote
I agree and know alot of folks who do think it's one of the greatest ever made.
Yoogefriggingoy t1_iujxftx wrote
In related news you guys should check out shawshank redemption, a real hidden gem
MyAnxiousDog t1_iujpbo8 wrote
I would not disagree!
skuggslemmad t1_iujrkbv wrote
The first movie is up there with the greatest. The second and third were good but not great.
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Ergotnometry t1_iujuaqa wrote
The best part about the Lord of the Rings movies is that you can say any of the three are the best one, and you'd be right.
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Ouroboron t1_iujys9p wrote
Bollocks. You can play about the first three notes of Star Wars and people will recognize it. The same cannot be said of LotR. The opening crawl had been lampooned and parodied but still is always recognizable as referring to Star Wars.
There's no May the Fourth or Revenge of the Sixth two days later for LotR. Star Wars is a far deeper cultural touchstone that LotR. It is far more pervasive.
Beyond that, the Original Trilogy had spawned a prequel trilogy and a sequel trilogy, and no matter how shitty those are, they dwarf LotR. Add to that the myriad television shows, countless video games, endless references in other pop culture, and you run into the inescapable fact the LotR doesn't hold a candle to Star Wars.
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Cool-S4ti5fact1on t1_iujtphm wrote
I dont agree. They aren't the greatest movies ever made at all. They are great though with Fellowship being one of the greatest imo.
With regards to casting, most of the cast was fine. I had issues with Elrond, and while Hugo Weaving is an amazing actor he is not what I imagined Elrond to look like. An elf having a receding hairline and wrinkles is unheard of in Tolkiens Legendarium.
Speaking of Tolkiens Legendarium, I think the movies are great movies but not necessarily the best adaptation. The movies made a lot of changes (not talking about Tom Bombadil), things that altered the public perception of how certain characters are meant to be. For example book Frodo is nothing like Movie Frodo, which is unfortunate because Frodo is one of the top 3 main protagonists.
In terms of directing, Jackson has some flaws. His main flaw is that he overdramatizes scenes to create tension. He does this by changing what actually happened in the book and replacing it with his own made up version of the event. That is fine if you do it sparingly but Jackson overdramatizes so frequently that it changes the personality of characters. For example Frodo in the books is more of a leader, wise hobbit who makes logical decisions. Frodo in the movies is constantly weak from the ring from about halfway through the first movie. In the movies he gets stabbed or thrown into danger at least 12 different times, and is always getting saved. Whereas in the books he gets saved probably like 3 times total, and He actually does heroic acts by saving all the hobbits.
Also when it comes to directing, a lot of the plot layout was borrowed from the previous LOTR animated movies from the 80s. The cartoons also miss out Tom Bombadil, Barrow Wights, Glorfindel. In fact the scene where the Hobbits are hiding under the tree and a Black Riders is creeping up over them, is taken from exactly the same shot in the animated movie. The camera view, the way they are all positioned on the screen is exactly the same. Which is funny because in the books, the Hobbits are not all together hiding under the tree.
Specialist_Insect_15 t1_iujtxw2 wrote
Nope.
eriffodrol t1_iujxvwn wrote
there's only one return, and it's of the jedi
Nobodycares2022 t1_iujqbps wrote
I'd strongly disagree!
5abbingia t1_iujqc6i wrote
As pointed out by others, I believe it is generational. As adaptations of the original material they are barely passable, and despite being amazing in some aspects (cinematography, effects etc) they are mediocre in others (mostly writing and dialogues). (imho)
maxtsukino t1_iujq46t wrote
watch more movies, from every decade, every genre and many countries as possible...
you may still love those movies and still feel close to them, of course... but for sure you will gain a new perspective, way mor rich than just hobbits and orcs...
Postmodernus t1_iujp3sm wrote
I disagree. And I think this is a generational belief. Me being in my 40s don’t know anyone my age or older who truly cares about these movies, and posts like these which come often I am lead to believe are always created by people who are around their 30s.
littlesprinkler t1_iujqg7i wrote
I'm 48 and they are by far my favorite movies.
ruiner8850 t1_iujtd7g wrote
I'm 43 and they are some of my favorite movies of all-time. A lot of people I know who are around my age like them as well. I rented The Fellowship of the Ring when it came out and although I almost never watched a movie twice when I rented it, I watched it twice with the normal audio plus a couple of additional times with commentary. I had never seen a movie quite like it. I had never read the books either, so I wasn't a fan of the source material. I wouldn't try to speak for entire generations in the future.
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Iloveindianajones OP t1_iujqj6c wrote
What did you dislike about them?
Postmodernus t1_iujqwc5 wrote
They just seem like well done average fantasy-adventure movies to me. Heroes get together, adventure starts, challenge shows up, heroes overcome the challenge. It’s like a video game, nothing deeper in there.
Ergotnometry t1_iuju7i0 wrote
Do you understand that it's because Tolkien influenced almost every other fantasy story, not the other way around?
ruiner8850 t1_iujupsb wrote
You do realize that The Lord of the Rings books are responsible for many of fantasy tropes we see today, right? This comment reminds me of how some people nowadays say that Seinfeld isn't unique and is just like so many other shows even though they were unique at the time.
Also, even if you think the plot is generic because so many other people copied them, it's still a masterclass in film making. The use of different types of special effects techniques is amazing. Many of the effects are practical and not CGI. The forced perspective is very well done and looks real. They were also able to take beloved books and make movies that the fans love. Fans tend to rip apart any adaptations of the source material they love unless it's perfect, but The Lord of the Rings was loved by fans of the books.
James_Westfall1 t1_iujrqez wrote
Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth!!
Stockag t1_iujzc82 wrote
You could litterally break down any move to such basic troupes
boysetsfire1988 t1_iujo457 wrote
They are on #7,9 and 14 on IMDb's top 250 list, won tons of awards and still get regular cinema screenings, I'd say they already are considered some of the best movies of all time