No-Tune-868 t1_iuhonay wrote on October 31, 2022 at 12:38 PM

Reply to comment by To_The_Past in How to watch and analyse arthouse cinema? by lonzosch

Then ur proving my point. I didnt disagree with how themes are explored affects quality. I disagreed that themes affect quality.

And of course if u replace themes ud get a different movie.

To_The_Past t1_iuhp7gl wrote on October 31, 2022 at 12:43 PM

>I didnt disagree with how themes are explored affect quality. I disagreed that themes affect quality.

I disagree that this is a meaningful distinction, let alone one that I proved. You said you're not sure themes are important - bad movies have the same basic themes as good movies, after all! My contention is that they are, and that bad movies have them too is a bad argument.

Bad movies often have the same basic editing or plotting as good movies too, but this doesn't mean editing or plotting are unimportant, that's a bad argument. Editing, plotting - and themes - and getting them right in the execution of a movie - are crucially important. Even if they're not the tangible things that jump out to you as why you liked the movie, they are crucially important factors that resulted in that end.

No-Tune-868 t1_iuhq2vu wrote on October 31, 2022 at 12:51 PM

Yeah i read what u said last time. No need to repeat urself.

Im still right and ur still moving away from the point onto editing and blah blah blah.

Sophistry at best.

To_The_Past t1_iuixe0z wrote on October 31, 2022 at 5:56 PM

I don't think you understand what either me or yourself are saying. Editing is used as an analogy that illustrates why your argument doesn't make sense. You're not right, you have decided that you have to be right but are unable to articulate your position coherently and have it withstand any scrutiny, and this is frustrating you. Have a nice day.