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Steakhouse42 OP t1_iuith9p wrote

Reply to comment by Asha_Brea in What movie did you love when you were younger but got progressivly worse over time? by Steakhouse42

You didnt really disprove any of my points, but ill respond.

  1. Yes. In fact in the comics bucky isnt a supersoldier. They actually buffed him in the mcu. But why even use bucky.

  2. Tony doesnt have infinite money lol. His money is tied up in his busineses and he bankrolls the operation. Many billionaores dont actually have 50billion liquid. His actual cash would be way lower. But also most of the avengers dont actually need ironman suits. Except black widow and hawkeye. Even starlord is superhumanly strong.

  3. Black panther is STILL the equivalent of a navy seal. He mostly does stealth missions and infiltration. Do you realize that if him and captain america were real you'd literally never see them. They arent really patrolling superheroes like a spiderman or daredevil.

  4. The Avengers work with the National Security council. Did you watch the first avengers. Lol. What do you think the avengers do. They dont patrol newyork. They deploy around the world when ever there is a major superpowered threat. With the support of the US military. This is why mysterio says "this is an avengers level threat" every single avenger is special forces military bro.

Captain america - US special forces

Falcon- para recuse

Rhodey- secetary of defense

Black widow- flipped Russian spy

Black panther- head of wakandan special forces. And head of state.

Thor- prince of Asgard. Asgard greatest weapon. Head of the warriors three. The most elite military commanders in Asgard.

The hulk- military scientist. Walking nuclear bomb.

Hawkeye- US special forces sniper.

Wanda- converted terrorist.

Dr.strange- sorcerer supreme. Commands an army of the worlds most elite wizards.

The entire antman team are military scientist.

The avengers are LITERALLY a superpowerd strike team of elite special forces members.

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Bomber131313 t1_iuk4kzp wrote

> The Avengers work with the National Security council.

What would make you think that?

>With the support of the US military.

What would make you think that?

This clip from Civil War establishs the Averagers as a private no military group. Literally Ross uses the world vigilantes and said "for the past 4 years you have operated with unlimited power and no supervision. That's an arrangement the governments of the world can no longer tolerate." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpXcU6DvRVA&t=98s That Ross part is around the 2:25 mark.

The Avengers have no connection the government or US military.

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Asha_Brea t1_iuiuejp wrote

>Yes. In fact in the comics bucky isnt a supersoldier. They actually buffed him in the mcu. But why even use bucky.

Hydra already has control over the Winter Soldier. Why create anything else if Bucky works?

>Tony doesnt have infinite money lol. His money is tied up in his busineses and he bankrolls the operation. Many billionaores dont actually have 50billion liquid. His actual cash would be way lower. But also most of the avengers dont actually need ironman suits. Except black widow and hawkeye. Even starlord is superhumanly strong.

At no moment in any of the movies Tony Stark had a money problem. He even gave Peter Parker the suit for free in Civil War.

But he has Black Widow, a human that can't dodge bullets, nothing.

>Black panther is STILL the equivalent of a navy seal. He mostly does stealth missions and infiltration. Do you realize that if him and captain america were real you'd literally never see them. They arent really patrolling superheroes like a spiderman or daredevil.

Black Panther has his own bulletproof fully functional suit. Captain America can very easily have a similar suit. And so could Black Widow and Hawkeye, making them more durable and making them cause more damage.

>The Avengers work with the National Security council. Did you watch the first avengers. Lol. What do you think the avengers do. They dont patrol newyork. They deploy around the world when ever there is a major superpowered threat. With the support of the US military. This is why mysterio says "this is an avengers level threat" every single avenger is special forces military bro.
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>Captain america - US special forces
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>Falcon- para recuse
>
>Rhodey- secetary of defense
>
>Black widow- flipped Russian spy
>
>Black panther- head of wakandan special forces. And head of state.
>
>Thor- prince of Asgard. Asgard greatest weapon. Head of the warriors three. The most elite military commanders in Asgard.
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>The hulk- military scientist. Walking nuclear bomb.
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>Hawkeye- US special forces sniper.
>
>Wanda- converted terrorist.
>
>Dr.strange- sorcerer supreme. Commands an army of the worlds most elite wizards.
>
>The entire antman team are military scientist.
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>The avengers are LITERALLY a superpowerd strike team of elite special forces members.

None of this is accurate at all, bro.

If you think that the Avengers show up because they are called by a goverment, then you need to watch Civil War again.

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Steakhouse42 OP t1_iuivopv wrote

"nOnE oF THiS iS AcCuRate"

Yes it is. Civil war was about the government taking away the avengers decisions on which missions to take.

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Asha_Brea t1_iuiw2ma wrote

Civil War is about the goverment WANTING to take away the avenger decisions and a group of Avengers saying "Jajajaja no".

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Steakhouse42 OP t1_iuiw83t wrote

Only half the avengers agreed.

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Asha_Brea t1_iuix4dx wrote

Not true. Iron Man team (the one that is in favor of the accords) is composed of:

  • Tony Star (who goes against the accords in Civil War)
  • James Rhodes
  • Vision
  • Natasha Romanoff (who changed sides).
  • Peter Parker (who has no idea what is happening and is only there to impress Tony).
  • T'challa (who does not give a shit because he is going to do whatever he wants anyways).

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So, only 2 Avengers actually agreed. And Rhodes regrets picking that side (as seen in Infinity War).

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