Submitted by chrisbokiul t3_yggtvo in movies
Whitewind617 t1_iu9f52h wrote
Reply to comment by HitchlikersGuide in Jean-Pierre Jeunet on Alien Resurrection, 25 years on by chrisbokiul
I hate 3, Resurrection, Prometheus, and I never saw AvPR or Covenant. I think my gut feeling is that 3 is the most frustrating entry because it takes a great movie (Aliens) and completely ruins the ending of it by killing off every single surviving character. It also does so in a way that makes NO SENSE (seriously Google the massive amount of fan arguments and retcons that attempt to explain how that egg got on that ship and how many there were. There straight-up is no good explanation.) The only way I can enjoy that ending now is pretending 3 doesn't exist, so that's what I do.
Resurrections requires me to already accept 3, and by contrast it's much stupider and on paper it's the worse movie, but it's less aggravating because at least it doesn't really fuck up anything that I care about. So I hate it way less than 3.
Prometheus is just a dumb movie. I don't particularly like any part of it, it billed itself as a prequel to Alien and yet has basically nothing to do with it, doesn't explain where the Aliens come from, doesn't explain really why the Engineers are evil bastards, and every character is a complete imbecile. I was genuinely confused by the positive reviews after I watched it.
AvP on the other hand...is dumb fun. The fact that it's not canon anymore makes it easier to swallow as an entry in the series. Turn your brain off and it's enjoyable.
doodler1977 t1_iu9rfhc wrote
Alien3 is better if you don't watch it immediately after Aliens. Aliens is such a PERFECT movie, and really gets you invested in everyone and the triumph.
Alien3, is a bummer (in tone/plot). But it's got some great performances, and it definitely has a style in its set decoration and general aesthetic. Charles S Dutton is probably my favorite Alien character. And Charles Dance has that quiet performance that the other films just don't seem to have (or make room for)
I_Hate_Knickers_5 t1_iua1l8k wrote
I really like Dutton in 3. Sometimes there is just perfect casting and I couldn't ask for a better fit for his character.
His eulogy for Hicks and Newt gets me every time.
doodler1977 t1_iuas0cw wrote
youtube has his rallying speech, as well as his final moments. i rewatch those a lot.
"FUCK THIS THING! LET'S FIGHT IT!"
HitchlikersGuide t1_iu9h11c wrote
Trust me, I'm aware of the flaws.
Hate is a strong word. You do you but I can appreciate them even if they didn't hit every mark.
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