BenefitPale OP t1_iyco5sf wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:31 PM

Reply to comment by DickieGreenleaf84 in Someone explain me why LOTR movies are so highly regarded by BenefitPale

So it's like you need to read the books to fully understand why it's the greatest fanatsy franchise of all time.

weebeardedman t1_iycp4cm wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM

I disagree here. I love reading, I hate the lotr books, I love the trilogy (but really only the extended versions).

I like the lotr trilogy for the same reason I like the og star wars trilogy - the characters have iconic voices/presences with amazing music composition that lend to background noise/comfort watching. I think they are fantastic movies, for a bunch of reasons (I still think they are respectively the best fantasy/sci-fi fi movie trilogy to be released) but I think their strength is their "audio"

That being said - if it's not something you grew up with, it ain't gonna hit the same

BenefitPale OP t1_iycq4i8 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:50 PM

I guess your last line could be one of the reasons why it didn't hit for me as it did for other people. I didn't grew up with it like HP but yeah i loved the costumes and background scores.

weebeardedman t1_iycr14h wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM

Yea.. like I usually am never In a "I'm bored, I'm gonna watch the lotr trilogy!" mood - it's almost always a "I have a 102 degree fever, I'm barely coherent, PUT MAH SHOW ON"

DickieGreenleaf84 t1_iyconm0 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:36 PM

Yeah, it's why I disagree that the movies are "the greatest", by themselves. By themselves, the Potter movies still work. The LOTR movies, IMO, don't work without being a fan of the books first.

That said, is there another fantasy franchise? That plays a major factor, too. You can compare way more action franchises, or crime franchises, than fantasy. So maybe in the future when the genre gets more respect, we will see more challengers.

BenefitPale OP t1_iycpmri wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:45 PM

Yeah exactly. I personally like to keep movies and books separate, they're different mediums for me and i don't like to compare and it's not fair imo.

For HP one thing i noticed is that every movie had a arc or conclusion satisfactory for that particular movie while building the greater thread and I felt satisfied. For LOTR the ending of the first movie felt very abrupt not abrupt i would say but very episodic, i wasn't sure where the first movie or even in general where the franchise was heading.

DickieGreenleaf84 t1_iycps2s wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:47 PM

> For HP one thing i noticed is that every movie had a arc or conclusion satisfactory for that particular movie while building the greater thread

It did for the first four. The last ones would be pretty shit without the rest of the movies backing them.

But yeah, it's not like, say, the Mission Impossible franchise, where any one film stands alone.

BenefitPale OP t1_iycqqbw wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:56 PM

Hmm i kind of disagree. I think 6th and 7th were pretty uneventful and dragging out of the series at least 6th had dumbledore's death. I loved 5th and 8th though. 8th one is just culmination of everything and a roller coaster ride. Right from the get go you're in it and it never slows down. I just love it so much.

DickieGreenleaf84 t1_iycr0yh wrote on November 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM

I might be getting them mixed up and meant up to five...I have only watched them through once. Yeah, it's a culmination, which is good, but also means it doesn't stand alone well. Kind of like the Infinity War/Endgame movies. And that is more than okay, as long as it accepts that is what it is.