Submitted by Real_Paramedic_1789 t3_z13tbl in movies

I don’t know many times I’ve heard a movie fan bitch about Product Placement. Tarantino flat out refuses to do it. Why? What difference does it make. Granted it can be over done. The Power Rangers movie WAY over did the Krispy Kreme product placement. It also doesn’t help that those doughnuts are vile. But in small doses what the problem. It doesn’t bother me if James Bond drinks a Heineken or Superman crashes into an IHOP. Whose with me?

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mediarch t1_ix8s48m wrote

It's like people only do things because they get paid, and that's just really sad...

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kipcarson37 t1_ixd2tah wrote

I don't wanna talk about this. I'm getting a headache.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix8scf6 wrote

Wait … you’re being facetious right?

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mediarch t1_ix8spnv wrote

I can't talk about it any more, it's giving me a headache.

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punygod t1_ix8t2zz wrote

Because it's super distracting and immediately takes you out of the movie if they force it to much.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix8tyij wrote

ET used Reeces Pieces.

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pajamatheater t1_ix8wvti wrote

Yes but the kids casually eating/using Reeces Pieces is one thing; when the characters start saying lines or entire scenes surround a product placement, it can become extremely distracting or even annoying.

The most recent example I can think of is the Walgreens placements in Hocus Pocus 2. There are entire scenes in Walgreens and even one of the characters causally suggests they go to Walgreens like it's some great event.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix8zw7v wrote

Small doses. I believe I said that

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pajamatheater t1_ix9jtog wrote

Your comment literally just says "ET used Reeces Pieces" ; you didn't elaborate at all on why you brought it up.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix9k1qx wrote

It’s such an iconic film. And it’s 30 years old. My point being that product placement has been around a long time and is not a new thing. Granted I could have made that more clear

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pajamatheater t1_ix9k9ha wrote

Gotcha. Yeah I mean I agree with you in that smaller situations such as in ET don't bother me. Sorry, I got a bit confused for a second there.

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Main_Tip112 t1_ix8sp6w wrote

Tarantino avoided product placement and instead created his own nonsense products that have become iconic in their own way, like Red Apple cigarettes/ tobacco or Big Kahuna burgers. It adds to the unique atmosphere of his movies and gives fans fun Easter eggs to find. Not to mention he's doing just fine without Pepsi lining his pockets.

So you sorta made an odd choice to single him out. If anything, he's a perfect example of why good creators shouldn't engage in product placement.

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wildadragon t1_ix8t6t4 wrote

Kevin Smith too with Nails cigarettes, Chewlies gum, and Mooby's

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix8trv2 wrote

But why does he care. That’s my point. Such a silly thing to worry about.

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HomerThompson15 t1_ix8uswo wrote

YOURE the one who’s worried about it.

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Main_Tip112 t1_ix8u4tr wrote

For the reasons I mentioned. He would probably consider it a wasted opportunity to express his creativity and create unique products for his movies, which adds depth to his worldbuilding. And he doesn't need or care about the money.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix9aynp wrote

Ehh maybe if he spent less time worrying making up brand names and more time focusing on his writing, we wouldn’t end up with films like Death Proof.

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Main_Tip112 t1_ix9c8qo wrote

What an airtight line of reasoning, nobody could possibly argue that logic. You should let him know.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix9cg8o wrote

Oh I doubt I need to tell him that Death Proof was awful

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Main_Tip112 t1_ix9d8c0 wrote

But he probably has no idea it's solely because he completely exhausted his creativity trying to come up with Teriyaki Donut. Please, for the rest of us, go inform him immediately. We may only get one more movie out him before he retires and this criticism is invaluable.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix9k6zz wrote

I never met him

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Main_Tip112 t1_ix9za53 wrote

Ugh, that's too bad. Imagine how famous he could've been as a filmmaker with your insight at his disposal.

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El_Superbeasto76 t1_ix9qorg wrote

It dates the movie to the period of that particular product, especially if it’s a flash in the pan product.

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A_Song_of_Two_Humans t1_ix8se7d wrote

Superman 2 made me start smoking.

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wildadragon t1_ix8sqml wrote

Superman 3 turned me into an alcoholic

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A_Song_of_Two_Humans t1_ix8sv62 wrote

Jaws 4 made me hate sharks... and movies.

Nothing to do with product placement. It was just that bad.

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wildadragon t1_ix8syh6 wrote

Well Michael Caine admitted it was just a cash grab.

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A_Song_of_Two_Humans t1_ix8t2eh wrote

Yeah it was clear he didn't do it for the prestige.

The Prestige on the other hand...

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[deleted] t1_ixarib6 wrote

Yeah he did The Prestige for the sharks.

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ElroyCrabs t1_ix8t2ro wrote

There’s a difference between fictional characters interacting with real world products naturally versus what is essentially an in-movie advertisement.

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iDuddits_ t1_ixcq001 wrote

This. I don’t mind if they “use” real products realistically. It’s just when you know the “rules” they follow to show products it really stands out.

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TheTurtleShepard t1_ix8sqjm wrote

It only bothers me if it takes me out of the movie with how obvious the product placement is. Otherwise I couldn’t care any less about whether the characters drink Heineken or the marvel superheroes drive kias

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kasetti t1_ix8su1a wrote

If its natural, I also dont see a problem with it. Our real world is full of marketing, some of which we dont even think of as marketing like for example car emblems. What I find weird is when filmmakers feel the need to remove those emblems from cars.

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[deleted] t1_ix8tud4 wrote

Yeah, like, I can clearly see that's a Ford, there's little point in removing the name and keeping the black oval background on the grill.

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TheTurtleShepard t1_ix8tzi8 wrote

I agree, everything is branded in our everyday lives anyways. As long as it doesn’t distract me from the movie I don’t care

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punygod t1_ix8tn04 wrote

Well alot of people watch movies as escapism from the real world. I remember sitting in the theater enjoying the first black panther movie when all of a sudden it turned into a car commercial. Do you get excited when your watching something and it cuts to commercial? I assume not

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TheTurtleShepard t1_ix8u42u wrote

That’s exactly what he’s saying though?

He is saying it’s fine so long as it’s natural, what you just described isn’t natural and distracts you from the movie

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punygod t1_ix8uniy wrote

Yeah well he also specifically mentioned car emblems and how most people don't think of it as marketing which I completely disagree with. The emblem being the main focus for multiple shots to me isn't very natural and is obviously marketing

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TheTurtleShepard t1_ix8vzbv wrote

What he is saying is he doesn’t understand why they remove them from the cars in production when it’s a normal part of our everyday lives.

He isn’t saying they should be zooming in and focusing on them. That would be unnatural

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kasetti t1_ix8w5an wrote

You cant avoid it though, unless you specifically go through the effort of removing it, which also isnt very natural depending on the situation. Cars have emblems, if you shoot a car from the from the front or behind, it is going to be in your shot.

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kasetti t1_ix8vk3g wrote

But what is a car commercial for you? With BP I think a part of that feeling comes from the slow speed they were driving and the boring flat wide shots. At least thats how I saw it, just a poorly made action scene. I didnt see it as oh, they are trying to sell me this car, which they probably were, but thats true for any major movie, you gotta get money to make the film from somewhere.

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punygod t1_ix8y3js wrote

https://youtu.be/1isIeJy6lTE are you not aware of all the Lexus black panther commercials? It's not they " probably were" they were 100 percent and they were not even close to subtle about it. Like those cars don't have any place in the movie. In civil war black panther is introduced and he's literally outrunning cars on foot cause the king don't need no damn car. If they do wanna make him a car it shouldn't have any brand because sheri made the car and says it's all vibranium... Also what a ridiculous thing to say that all movies do it and they have to to get money. Marvel has a ton of money and absolutely doesn't have to have product placement to be able to afford to make a movie.

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kasetti t1_ix8ymtb wrote

You are getting hung up on this one film. Let me ask you how do you feel about the cars that Bond drives? Do they feel like commercials?

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punygod t1_ix8zjy1 wrote

No because it would make sense for bond to drive a nice car. This thread asked why people don't like product placement and I gave an example as to why I personally dont. The question wasn't why do people hate product placement 100 percent of the time, because that would be a silly question and nobody does. It can be done right and subtle and I never said it couldn't. But the times it's done horribly is what makes people dislike it

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kasetti t1_ix903v3 wrote

And my point was that when you make your product placement subtle, the audience doesnt even notice that it is marketing. You only note the bad product placement.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix8tvvt wrote

Exactly. Bond drinks a lot. It’s understandable he’d drink Heineken. That’s one of my fav beers as well.

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djdoublem3 t1_ix9atxp wrote

Small doses is fine at times.

Blatantly advertising off a Beats Pill (remember what that was?) in Transformers 4(?), on the other hand? Not so much.

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EC2151 t1_ix8vop6 wrote

"What, you don't like slop? I think it tastes good!"

-proud slop consumer, 2022

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EC2151 t1_ix9r9g4 wrote

OP spending hours now justifying why "it's good, actually" to have commercials shoved in his face 24/7

L M A O

"Um is that a Papa John™ pizza on the table by Thor™ in Thor: Love and Thunder™? Heckin' BASED, I LOVE Papa John's! I should order some right now! This movie speaks to my life experiences!"

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probablybillingthis t1_ix8ul98 wrote

You very rarely see one that is shot in a manner that doesn’t scream product placement. It takes me out of the movie every time.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix9bjln wrote

Oh I don’t know about that. I just watched Addams family for Halloween. In one scene you sees a billboard for Tombstone pizza behind Lurch ( do they even make that anymore?). That didn’t take me out of the film. We pass billboards every day.

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NoFate1984 t1_ix8vpol wrote

Because fucking apple phones crammed into every scene is ridiculous

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cryscros t1_ix8vtjy wrote

Because everything is an ad nowadays, it’s frustrating

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix9bqfr wrote

But why. Why does it bother people that Bond drinks a brand name beer or Batman uses a Gillette Razor (those are great razors). It’s such a small thing

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nicless t1_ix8w6uo wrote

The movie "Josie and the Pussycats" is my favorite product placement of all time. Du Jour's plane is amazing. Such a good movie if you haven't seen it.

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Frangiblepani t1_ix8ymlc wrote

If it's obvious, I don't like it. If it make sense, I'm fine.

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HEHEHO2022 t1_ix9pyot wrote

the more someone does it the more i see them just trying to get money and less about them giving a shit about the art.

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If an artist doesnt care about their work why the fuck should i.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix9qxv1 wrote

Shakespeare specifically wrote Richard III to suck up the Queen Elizabeth. Sort of the medieval version of product placement. I’m sure he still cared about his work.

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HEHEHO2022 t1_ix9x90y wrote

did you read what i wrote.

i said the more they put in product placement in the less they care and the more its about the money.

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iamstephano t1_ixa5meg wrote

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ixa6sld wrote

My sister in law is from Philly, she went to school there. Apparently Lynch was there and talked to the class. People kept asking him about his movies. He refused to answer anything about his films and spent the whole time rambling on an on about the value of transcendental meditation. I can’t say I value his opinion

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iamstephano t1_ixa9cib wrote

If you know anything about Lynch then it shouldn't be a surprise that he didn't divulge anything about his movies. He lets art speak for itself.

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Ellisrsp t1_ixca4rl wrote

I felt that ads and product placement was seamlessly integrated in Days of Thunder.

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[deleted] t1_ix8vxv0 wrote

I don’t mind if they destroy a store that has branding on it. But for instance the Bing product placement in get out took me out of movie in the most important time

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[deleted] t1_ix8w1mq wrote

I don’t mind if they destroy a store that has branding on it. But for instance the Bing product placement in get out took me out of movie in the most important time

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Claunt_Sinders t1_ix8zg1z wrote

Theres a difference between seeing products on screen we all recognize and an actual ad hidden in plain sight, you are asking why the latter isn't appreciated lmao

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix9btw7 wrote

No I’m asking why people seem to get upset over nothing.

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Claunt_Sinders t1_ix9fwp8 wrote

what im saying is that it's not nothing to some people just because it's nothing to you. Is that hard to understand or should I make a movie about it for you?

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kipcarson37 t1_ixd2pep wrote

"Why are people annoyed by this thing? I mean, I found it annoying in Power Rangers, but that's different for some reason. Who's with me!?"

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k_1181 t1_ixgng0j wrote

Because people hate ads, especially in a movie they paid to see.

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blackcatmystery t1_ixawt78 wrote

I am driving a Mercedes GLE 53 Coup right now AND an E450 because I put it then in my movies. I also have an Xbox and a ps5, free booze, Carmax gave me $50k etc. It pays to sell out. And if you have a problem with that feel free to show me all your cool free shit.

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