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kasetti t1_ix8su1a wrote

If its natural, I also dont see a problem with it. Our real world is full of marketing, some of which we dont even think of as marketing like for example car emblems. What I find weird is when filmmakers feel the need to remove those emblems from cars.

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[deleted] t1_ix8tud4 wrote

Yeah, like, I can clearly see that's a Ford, there's little point in removing the name and keeping the black oval background on the grill.

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TheTurtleShepard t1_ix8tzi8 wrote

I agree, everything is branded in our everyday lives anyways. As long as it doesn’t distract me from the movie I don’t care

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punygod t1_ix8tn04 wrote

Well alot of people watch movies as escapism from the real world. I remember sitting in the theater enjoying the first black panther movie when all of a sudden it turned into a car commercial. Do you get excited when your watching something and it cuts to commercial? I assume not

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TheTurtleShepard t1_ix8u42u wrote

That’s exactly what he’s saying though?

He is saying it’s fine so long as it’s natural, what you just described isn’t natural and distracts you from the movie

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punygod t1_ix8uniy wrote

Yeah well he also specifically mentioned car emblems and how most people don't think of it as marketing which I completely disagree with. The emblem being the main focus for multiple shots to me isn't very natural and is obviously marketing

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TheTurtleShepard t1_ix8vzbv wrote

What he is saying is he doesn’t understand why they remove them from the cars in production when it’s a normal part of our everyday lives.

He isn’t saying they should be zooming in and focusing on them. That would be unnatural

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kasetti t1_ix8w5an wrote

You cant avoid it though, unless you specifically go through the effort of removing it, which also isnt very natural depending on the situation. Cars have emblems, if you shoot a car from the from the front or behind, it is going to be in your shot.

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kasetti t1_ix8vk3g wrote

But what is a car commercial for you? With BP I think a part of that feeling comes from the slow speed they were driving and the boring flat wide shots. At least thats how I saw it, just a poorly made action scene. I didnt see it as oh, they are trying to sell me this car, which they probably were, but thats true for any major movie, you gotta get money to make the film from somewhere.

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punygod t1_ix8y3js wrote

https://youtu.be/1isIeJy6lTE are you not aware of all the Lexus black panther commercials? It's not they " probably were" they were 100 percent and they were not even close to subtle about it. Like those cars don't have any place in the movie. In civil war black panther is introduced and he's literally outrunning cars on foot cause the king don't need no damn car. If they do wanna make him a car it shouldn't have any brand because sheri made the car and says it's all vibranium... Also what a ridiculous thing to say that all movies do it and they have to to get money. Marvel has a ton of money and absolutely doesn't have to have product placement to be able to afford to make a movie.

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kasetti t1_ix8ymtb wrote

You are getting hung up on this one film. Let me ask you how do you feel about the cars that Bond drives? Do they feel like commercials?

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punygod t1_ix8zjy1 wrote

No because it would make sense for bond to drive a nice car. This thread asked why people don't like product placement and I gave an example as to why I personally dont. The question wasn't why do people hate product placement 100 percent of the time, because that would be a silly question and nobody does. It can be done right and subtle and I never said it couldn't. But the times it's done horribly is what makes people dislike it

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kasetti t1_ix903v3 wrote

And my point was that when you make your product placement subtle, the audience doesnt even notice that it is marketing. You only note the bad product placement.

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Real_Paramedic_1789 OP t1_ix8tvvt wrote

Exactly. Bond drinks a lot. It’s understandable he’d drink Heineken. That’s one of my fav beers as well.

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