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sandiercy t1_iwc5nhb wrote

But not true in the Thor movies, Spiderman movies, Civil War, The 2 Infinity Wars movies, Ultron, etc.

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Asha_Brea t1_iwc5vui wrote

OP did state "in their first film", so only Thor and Spider-man count there.

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Average_Ant_Games OP t1_iwc5t4y wrote

I’m referring to the sole hero films. Thor and Spider-Man were the sole films that didn’t follow this trope

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Asha_Brea t1_iwc61m9 wrote

Dormamu's powers are nothing like Dr Strange powers.

None of the guardians of the galaxy have a powerset even remotely similar to Ronan.

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sandiercy t1_iwc6jgq wrote

Not to mention The Eternals movie and The Avengers, Loki was definitely not similar to the Avengers.

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Asha_Brea t1_iwc6sa9 wrote

The Avengers and Loki were not introduced in The Avengers. It is not the first film for any of them.

Loki is a valid example of villian that doesn't have the same the powers as the hero in their first film in Thor.

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[deleted] t1_iwc716k wrote

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Asha_Brea t1_iwc7col wrote

Black Widow was in Iron Man 2 and Hawkeye was in Thor, so it was neither character first film.

If you are going to count the Chitauri, then might as well count evil Hawkeye and he has the same "powers" than Black Widow.

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[deleted] t1_iwc85ar wrote

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Asha_Brea t1_iwc8gsm wrote

He is barely a cameo in Avengers, but he plays a longer role in Guardians 1.

He doesn't count for the other movies, because it is not his first movie.

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[deleted] t1_iwc9aar wrote

Dr. Strange also had Hannibal fighting Sherlock. They had similar powers.

The ending didn't make any fucking sense with Dormamu anyway. Dormamu should not have suddenly realized that "wait a minute", because he would've never remembered the last times he speared Strange. Also the warning about using timeshit too much... well nothing happened when Strange used it for 5 billion times with Dormamu. Fuck that movie was stupid in every way.

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sandiercy t1_iwc63nk wrote

So, which one was like Thanos?

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Average_Ant_Games OP t1_iwc8op5 wrote

He doesn’t fit the trope since he was a villain in the avengers films, not an initial sole hero film

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