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crab__rangoons t1_j2ce770 wrote

Rian Johnson addresses this in an episode of Scriptnotes.

Miles only drugs Andi and sets her up in the garage with the car running so she’d asphyxiate. He never actually kills her himself/sees that she’s dead. Since they never announced her death publicly, Miles never knew for sure if his plan worked. This is all mentioned in the movie but it’s definitely possible to miss.


OSUTechie t1_j2cespx wrote

Yup, it's not until he see the article on the phone that Duke shows him that he realizes the Andi on the island is an imposter. Which is why he tried to kill her.


WarmMoistLeather t1_j2cguqv wrote

But I think OP's question is why did he just accept that she was there? As OP said, her surviving his attempt was conceivable, but what did he think was going to happen when she apparently survived and showed up on the island? She'd just be cool? Not say anything? Live and let live?

I'm guessing he's just flat out too stupid to come up with a response. Maybe if "Andi" had confronted him he'd come up with something in the moment to play it off, but couldn't think of his own move since he's pretty much only reactive. He knows Duke saw him but doesn't do anything or have any plan until he's blackmailed and makes a panicked move.

Maybe he could've made a scene and tried to send her away when she appears at the beach; he'd have to explain why she got an invite, but sometimes people invite others with the expectation it'll be turned down, so I don't think it'd be so crazy. The shitheads probably wouldn't challenge him since they themselves said she shouldn't have come. He'd sent everyone maintaining the property away so it's not like he could've had someone watch her.


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DarkLink1065 t1_j2cffkk wrote

He's dumb, and he obviously couldn't reveal that he'd tried to murder her to everyone else, and had to play along until he figured out what to do. Then Blanc gave him the idea for getting Duke's gun just a few minutes after they arrive, so he continued to pretend until he was able to shoot her.


Aregisteredusername t1_j2cgmbh wrote

To add to what others say, when he sees Andi for the first time he looks shook, likes he’s seen a ghost. Then the way he touches her shoulder it’s almost like he’s making sure she’s real. It’s short, his hand quivers a bit, and when he pulls away he’s kind of weird about it.


WALNUTSH2279 t1_j2ckkq3 wrote

That movie sucked so bad. I shut it off after 15 minutes.


mok000 t1_j2chgcv wrote

I managed to get through 18 minutes of Glass Onion before I gave up, just seemed too boring and dumb.


PsychonauticalRaz t1_j2ceq7h wrote

I wanna know why Rian Johnson immediately explains motives and clues, all while making the actual mystery impossible to solve.


DarkLink1065 t1_j2cfyjq wrote

The mystery is immediately solveable, because there really isn't much of a mystery. Miles obviously did it. But just like the whole glass onion metaphor, everyone, including Blanc and the audience, assumes there is a lot more to it than that and so the obvious answer can't be what happened because there's no way Miles would be dumb enough to murder her.


PsychonauticalRaz t1_j2cgcni wrote

I think seeing the murder isn't even solving it.

Not to mention, watching an extra hour of movie just to see what you already know isn't interesting. I don't care how many onion metaphors Rian puts in the movie, it doesn't make it anymore interesting.


Equal-Doc6047 t1_j2cfcxl wrote

That’s the genius of the film, and imo what makes Glass Onion so much better than the first film. You know so much about everyone the mystery becomes more whose going to die and who will obvious do it (essentially the mystery is what is the mystery if you know what I’m saying). Whereas Knives Out for the most part follows some traditional murder mystery conventions, Glass Onion elevates them up to 11, keeping you guessing every time, even before the murder itself happens.


PsychonauticalRaz t1_j2cg5mi wrote

That's not genius, it's just Rian Johnson subverting expectations like that itself is a good trick and satsifying. If you see the murder, the mystery is over, and if you don't see the murder, fuck you because you have no chance to figure it out.

The first movie does the same subversion schtick. We "see" how he died so we spend the movie not worrying about the whodunnit aspect, but we also suspect foul play, at which point the obvious candidate is the ONE suspect they focused on for the second half of the movie. Atleast that one had the "Hugh did it" scene, but Glass Onion is just not a mystery movie, it's a "let me explain exactly what's happening as it's happening while leaving out the actually important details so I can make a cheap revelation scene at the end to explain the mystery you had no chance at solving yourself". It's not genius, it's disappointing.

Unearned misdirection is just gaslighting, and when he's been doing that since atleast Looper it isn't clever anymore.