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Honestfellow2449 t1_j6o8la0 wrote

"This is a beautiful sword. I would expect the man who made it to show the same care and devotion in every aspect of his life."

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KitsuneRisu t1_j6o794y wrote

Just because something is used as a prop and is a common thing found in association with a character does not necessarily make it significant.

In Knives out, Rian Johnson intentionally wrote in the baseball as a metaphorical representation for the karmic retrobution of the character. The act of throwing the baseball comes full circle as part of the plot and mirrors the main theme of the story.

In Pirates, the sword is not used in any such way that is that deep. The sword he made is primarily used as an introduction to show that he is a blacksmith. The fact that he was stabbed by it is inconsequential. It wasn't used to carry out a narrative, to lead from scene to scene, as a metaphor for anything, nor was its use ironic to any degree. It doesn't have a story, or a significance to any of the characters in the movie that would help carry out a parallel theme.

I think you're thinking a bit too much about this one, personally.

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girafa t1_j6olso3 wrote

> In Knives out, Rian Johnson intentionally wrote in the baseball as a metaphorical representation for the karmic retrobution of the character. The act of throwing the baseball comes full circle as part of the plot and mirrors the main theme of the story.

Wait what

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snowylocks t1_j6pc7v3 wrote

Richard Drysdale throws the baseball on Harlan's desk just to spite the dead Harlan. Blanc finds it outside then leaves in on a side table in the room they did the will-reading. Towards the end of the film, Linda finds the ball and places it back on her father's study. Where she finds the letter Richard discarded as blank shortly before throwing out the ball. That's how she finds out he's been cheating on her, leading to him getting a black eye, and probably a bad divorce (she made him sign a prenup) after the events of the movie.

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soundguynick t1_j6ok2fj wrote

No one writing, directing or acting in those movies were concerned with symbolism or meaning.

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snowylocks t1_j6pddb4 wrote

I don't understand the comments, but I thought it was called the sword of destiny in the PotC fandom. When Calypso tells Will he has a touch of destiny about him, on re-watch I thought it was this sword she was foreseeing.

The sword doesn't't cause things to happen, it is just there throughout Will's journey. In the first movie it's clearly just something to connect Will with Norrington. Later they planned it such that Will will get killed by the same sword.

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NowIsNew t1_j6o80gl wrote

This kinda makes sense.

Tia Delma does say a touch of destiny to him twice.

It was a ceremonial sword, too. Maybe it signifies new beginnings or ending of one this and beginning of another? That would make sense with the events too actually.

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NowIsNew t1_j6o5z4y wrote

But, he makes it for Governer who gifts it to Norrington. Norrington gives it to Will. Beckett takes it and and keeps it with him. Then, gives it to Norrington, Norrington stabs Davy Jones with it. He takes it and then, eventually stabs Will with it. He dies.

It comes full circle. I get that part. It's its journey i am wondering about.

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