Submitted by BobRobot77 t3_10plr0n in movies
Butch_Beth t1_j6mon6w wrote
Reply to comment by Buhos_En_Pantelones in Why Film Festivals Are Steering Clear of Controversial Movies by BobRobot77
I think the problem we're facing is actually pretty simple, unlike TV or film or books, the internet isn't divided by age or isn't categorised by it. This means at any point you're at risk of reading the opinion of a 15 year old, or an 11 year old, or anywhere in between and younger. A lot of the terrible posts you see are from these people, children who don't have a lot of life experience and speak with the same apparent authority as you or I.
All of these twitter pile on's start this way, children have a lot of free time and they get hoovered up into discord groups and teach each other the most extreme opinions. Then they post about this stuff in those groups and come up with an insane puritanical ideology around it. Recently I saw someone on twitter say the first major news event they remembered was Trump getting elected, they had 10's of thousands of followers and they can't have been older than 12 or 13, they even framed it as 'their dad telling them'. This is a problem.
Regardless who said
>Why does your Latino lead have to bond with a white woman?
It was deeply influenced by that, film festivals are reading this stuff online and taking it to heart, but it's complete bullshit. You can have a transphobic subject in your documentary, I say that as a trans person. In The Lady and the Dale they have footage of jurors admitting they found the subject of the documentary guilty in part because she was trans, or it at least was a factor. Surely we have to want that out there? Not locked away because it's 'offensive'.
Everyone needs to stop listening to twitter and Facebook and social media in general. Have fun on it sure, but you have a bias, you assume that the person who wrote the post you're reading is about your age and about the same as you. That is rarely true.
trillyntruly t1_j6n56kp wrote
these 11 year olds are not just propping up arguments that adults take seriously and listen to, they're propping up arguments that adults internalize and move forward with. i maintain, the democratization of speech is cool, but it's hardly the ideal we all pretend it is. there's a certain value in the gatekeeping of voices. it may sound needlessly discriminatory to some, and i totally understand why, but as a general rule, not listening to children is a good idea. some of them are wise beyond their years, brilliant, smarter than most adults, no doubt. but the majority of them are just less experienced, less learned, less developed adults. having said that, i have no opinion on this particular film being left out of this festival. i don't know enough about it to form an opinion. i generally oppose censorship as well as self-imposed censorship as a result of a toxic environment, but i don't want to speak about specifics without knowing more details
reckoner23 t1_j6nj8fm wrote
If no one took anything on the internet/twitter seriously we probably wouldn't be in this mess.
reckoner23 t1_j6nhshu wrote
It gets worse when you have journalists/bloggers arguing this nonsense. But I think your right that some people like journalists/bloggers seem to be influenced by random 11 year olds on twitter.
Tacky-Terangreal t1_j6owix6 wrote
Couldn’t agree more. I believed in some really dumb shit when I was 16 simply because I was a kid and I didn’t know any better. It’s so easy for teenagers and children to get sucked into these mobs online
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