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paulwhitedotnyc t1_j6laf3s wrote

How could you possibly give a shit about this?

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leeswervino t1_j6latu9 wrote

Because it’s factually incorrect? And honestly contradicts the whole movie.

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Calligrapher_Antique t1_j6lbund wrote

Not according to the CDC website.

"Non-Hispanic Black or African American people who smoke cigarettes, regardless of age, are more likely to smoke menthol cigarettes than people of other races or ethnicities who smoke cigarettes.Jun 27, 2022"

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meraki_05 t1_j6lc0il wrote

Facts are racist bro!

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leeswervino t1_j6lc89r wrote

Dude I’m not talking about that. You can confirm Obama smoked Marlboros.

Your facts (while accurate) have nothing to do with this convo and you’re too stupid to realize it.

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[deleted] OP t1_j6lc540 wrote

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SomeShoeDog t1_j6ldtag wrote

are you really gonna double down on providing a “source” that obama only smoked marlboros and call someone a “fn idiot” when your “source” not only doesn’t mention any specific brand but also explicitly states that a white house spokesperson advised that the thing obama is holding in the photo is not a pack of cigarettes?

to quote another person in this thread, please stop it with this nonsense.

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leeswervino t1_j6le7lh wrote

That is 100% a pack of Marlboro cigarettes. He is pulling one out.

There are plenty of articles on his smoking habit it wasn’t a well kept secret. You can do your own homework.

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leeswervino t1_j6legwf wrote

Here asshole. That’s from HIS WIFE. Hope that’s credible.

>What brand does Obama smoke?

>Michelle Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times in 2004 that Obama smoked Marlboros. While he's still thought to prefer Marlboro Reds, he also admitted that he "bummed" cigarettes during his 2008 campaign, so he may not be a Reds purist.

source

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SomeShoeDog t1_j6lercj wrote

how does this unattributed quote prove your argument? it clearly states that he may not have been a purist because he bummed cigarettes.

i don’t think you fully understand how this whole debating things works.

you’re also positively freaking out over a single, unimportant joke in the first 5 minutes of a 120 minute movie. touch grass man

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leeswervino t1_j6lf3ek wrote

You’re fucking incredible man. I could show up to your house with Obama right now and light up a whole carton of Marlboro Reds and you’d still have a come back.

You People.

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SomeShoeDog t1_j6lfari wrote

you’re hysterical, man. like full fight or flight adrenaline rush over a blurry photo of obama holding a vaguely rectangular thing.

have you ever tried mindfulness exercises?

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leeswervino t1_j6lfluu wrote

There’s plenty of other sources. Move along troll.

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SomeShoeDog t1_j6lfpjs wrote

all i gotta say is that there is an observable reason that you’re getting mercilessly ratio’d 🤷‍♂️

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leeswervino t1_j6lfvyc wrote

Because you all feel like bullying someone right now. You’re all still wrong, it’s fine.

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SomeShoeDog t1_j6lg78g wrote

hey man. your judgment is fully sound. your facts are checked and there is a 0% chance that obama ever smoked a newport in his life. and comedy has to exclusively be based in fact. this is factual and cannot be argued. thank you for taking the time to educate the rest of us single-brain-celled plebes. your genius knows no bounds and truly you are the king of cigarettes. may your throne be always acrid and properly yellowed from nicotine stains. 🙄

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leeswervino t1_j6lgfvh wrote

You’re pathetic. You’re wrong and so now you mock the conversation because you lost. Just move along dude.

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SomeShoeDog t1_j6lgjcd wrote

it’s actually weird that you think a conversation can be “won”

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leeswervino t1_j6lgmvn wrote

Holy shit. Please man leave me the fuck alone.

I said Obama smokes Marlboros. He does as confirmed by numerous sources and his wife. You said he didn’t. I showed you he did. Therefore you lost and are just pushing buttons now. So stop.

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Dinky_Nuts t1_j6le2rr wrote

You do know there are Newport Reds right?

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leeswervino t1_j6lnhlu wrote

I do.

However, himself and his wife are on the record saying he smokes Marlboros. I have no stock in Phillip Morris or reason to make this up I promise.

Not to mention, if they are Newport Reds my point is the same. The joke is predicated around the menthol stereotype and Newport being the historically “Black” cigarette as they only produced menthols in most markets up until around the late 90s early 2000s and it was argued their advertising often appealed to the “colored community.”

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[deleted] OP t1_j6lbcd1 wrote

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leeswervino t1_j6lbwcn wrote

Dude this movie is clearly trying to be more than a comedy. Come on. You either know what I mean and you’re just being childish or you’re an idiot.

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Katkon t1_j6ldzij wrote

I'm watching the movie as I type this. The entire thing is a satire - filled with stereotypes and cliches. It takes shots at Jews. Muslims. White people. Black people. Straight people. Gay people.

It's intentionally inappropriate. It's a comedy!

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ethanwnelson t1_j6lgc9r wrote

I got the impression that this movie doesn’t really know what it is. It wants to say something, like Look Whose Coming To Dinner, but is filled with really broad, goofy comedy that belongs in a Zucker Brothers movie. It has a lot of talented artists attached to it, both behind the camera and in front, but I can’t help feeling that it could’ve been better if they would have stuck with one tone.

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winkers t1_j6o5wzh wrote

Agreed. Is it crass? Yes. Is some of the humor cheap? Yes. Is every stereotype on the table to be poked at? Yes. I’m totally fine with a satirical movie that is willing to poke at each group’s hypocrisy. There are some cringy moments for me during the movie but it’s all part and parcel for an attempt at making fun of everyone and everything.

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leeswervino t1_j6liil3 wrote

Did you pay any attention to the last 20 minutes or so at all?

Pretty clear this wasn’t “just for LOLs”

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[deleted] OP t1_j6lditp wrote

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leeswervino t1_j6ldqoz wrote

You don’t even know me. You hate me because of what you’ve convinced yourself I represent which is also incorrect. Because you’re not very smart.

I’m not a progressive far left crying bleeding heart liberal. I’m pissed they made a lazy stupid joke as a cigarette smoker.

Have a good night.

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ThePancakeFell t1_j6lg7x4 wrote

>I’m not a progressive far left crying bleeding heart liberal.

No way!

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TimmyRL28 t1_j6lh7cg wrote

Imagine thinking you're being downvoted on Reddit for being too liberal.

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leeswervino t1_j6lhf7m wrote

>>Black men kill black man. Looks for a reason to be mad at the white man.

Yeah and you’re a real winner man. Stellar insight.

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nkupras t1_j6la19f wrote

It’s a comedy, not a documentary. Jokes don’t need to be factually correct to be funny. Lighten up.

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leeswervino t1_j6lahb3 wrote

Except Jonah Hill’s bride literally ends up skewering Julia Louis Dreyfus’ character for the exact type of behavior that her husband (Hill) participated in at beginning of the movie….

I know it seems silly. And it is. I’m chill. But really it contradicts the whole movie man.

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CressKitchen969 t1_j6l9zi7 wrote

The cast and concept on paper was very promising, but most of the jokes and setups were half assed

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DrGreenThumb42066 t1_j6lag9q wrote

I thought the movie was pretty good...I think you are over thinking it. It is a movie. Shouldn't try to start a "Woke" movement over it.✌️

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leeswervino t1_j6laqyj wrote

I think the people who made the movie would be disappointed with your take aways. Or lack there of.

Also if you care to, please explain what I’m over thinking. The movie said Obama smoked Newports so they could make a lazy black joke. He doesn’t. Not sure what there is to overthink.

I guess his favorite food is KFC too huh?

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DrGreenThumb42066 t1_j6lkkfo wrote

Ok...maybe I meant don't be such a bitch and grow some thicker skin....😆and I do love me some KFC!

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leeswervino t1_j6ll2kt wrote

I’m not personally offended by this. It’s just stupid and inaccurate. I was annoyed by the lazy joke more than anything.

I love all stereotypes. Not KFC though. That’s too spicy for my white ass. See jokes!

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Calligrapher_Antique t1_j6lbp8t wrote

Where is it disproved? Menthol has always been heavily marketed towards the black community. It may be racist that companies did that, but it's not racist to identify that fact.

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leeswervino t1_j6lcfo5 wrote

It’s disproved in the picture attached to the article. Holy shit can you people read. I’m not talking about the whole demographic I’m talking about Barrack Obama. Who was the subject of the joke.

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KingBowserGunner t1_j6lczh8 wrote

But you’re saying it’s a racist stereotype to say Obama smoked menthols when it’s factually accurate to say people in his demographic are more likely to smoke menthols

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crickz1474 t1_j6leqc5 wrote

He’s getting a bit too worked up over it, but you guys are pretty damn stupid lol. He’s saying it’s not true that he smokes newports and that the joke is altering reality to fit a racial stereotype (whether that stereotype is true or not).

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KingBowserGunner t1_j6lf7sa wrote

But you’re saying it’s a racist stereotype to say Obama smoked menthols when it’s factually accurate to say people in his demographic are more likely to smoke them

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MotherOfTheFog t1_j6ldvbq wrote

Out of all the things to be upset about when a gallon of milk is $6.30.

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Huevos___Rancheros t1_j6li6ig wrote

Reading OPs reply’s to the comments is just fucking hilarious like imagine getting this feral over a throwaway like in a movie about what cigarettes someone smokes 😭😭😭 (edit: OP has got a burner account and is using it to defend themselves, this is truly unhinged behaviour)

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leeswervino t1_j6lkeb0 wrote

Jesus Christ you’re taking this more seriously than I am if you think I’m going the burner route lol. There’s like one random just calling people dickheads. Everyone else is just jumping on me cause it’s the it thing to do.

It’s a joke. It was a joke post to start for the most part. People are just so stupid man that I gotta then at least attempt to set them straight.

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Huevos___Rancheros t1_j6lkszy wrote

> It’s a joke.

Mhm ofc it was that’s why you became completely unhinged and started swearing at everyone and getting into long exchanges. Great sense of humour you got there pal 🤡

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leeswervino t1_j6llcnd wrote

I said Marlboros are the anti Newport, lol.

Come on man stop just trying to start shit. Move along.

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Huevos___Rancheros t1_j6llmp6 wrote

Oh ya it’s me that’s the one that’s trying to start shit😂😂😂 incredible

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leeswervino t1_j6llvb0 wrote

I’m not starting anything. I had a factual point to prove and I did. I can’t help it if you people can’t read. Now bye.

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Lukeh41 t1_j6ld189 wrote

I thought Obama quit smoking before he became President. He didn't?

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leeswervino t1_j6ld8zo wrote

There’s a link to an article that answers all your questions.

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[deleted] OP t1_j6lb1a6 wrote

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ReindeerRed66 t1_j6ldukp wrote

Oldest trick in the book. Put the racist stereo type remarks in and nobody pays attention.

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