The cast and concept on paper was very promising, but most of the jokes and setups were half assed

It’s a comedy, not a documentary. Jokes don’t need to be factually correct to be funny. Lighten up.

Nailed it!

How could you possibly give a shit about this?

I thought the movie was pretty good...I think you are over thinking it. It is a movie. Shouldn't try to start a "Woke" movement over it.✌️

Except Jonah Hill’s bride literally ends up skewering Julia Louis Dreyfus’ character for the exact type of behavior that her husband (Hill) participated in at beginning of the movie….

I know it seems silly. And it is. I’m chill. But really it contradicts the whole movie man.

I think the people who made the movie would be disappointed with your take aways. Or lack there of.

Also if you care to, please explain what I’m over thinking. The movie said Obama smoked Newports so they could make a lazy black joke. He doesn’t. Not sure what there is to overthink.

I guess his favorite food is KFC too huh?

Because it’s factually incorrect? And honestly contradicts the whole movie.

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Where is it disproved? Menthol has always been heavily marketed towards the black community. It may be racist that companies did that, but it's not racist to identify that fact.

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Not according to the CDC website.

"Non-Hispanic Black or African American people who smoke cigarettes, regardless of age, are more likely to smoke menthol cigarettes than people of other races or ethnicities who smoke cigarettes.Jun 27, 2022"

Dude this movie is clearly trying to be more than a comedy. Come on. You either know what I mean and you’re just being childish or you’re an idiot.

Facts are racist bro!

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Dude I’m not talking about that. You can confirm Obama smoked Marlboros.

Your facts (while accurate) have nothing to do with this convo and you’re too stupid to realize it.

It’s disproved in the picture attached to the article. Holy shit can you people read. I’m not talking about the whole demographic I’m talking about Barrack Obama. Who was the subject of the joke.

Im offended

Damn nice self report bro

But you’re saying it’s a racist stereotype to say Obama smoked menthols when it’s factually accurate to say people in his demographic are more likely to smoke menthols

I thought Obama quit smoking before he became President. He didn't?

face palm

I’m done here.

Methods > Menthols

There’s a link to an article that answers all your questions.

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You don’t even know me. You hate me because of what you’ve convinced yourself I represent which is also incorrect. Because you’re not very smart.

I’m not a progressive far left crying bleeding heart liberal. I’m pissed they made a lazy stupid joke as a cigarette smoker.

Have a good night.

are you really gonna double down on providing a “source” that obama only smoked marlboros and call someone a “fn idiot” when your “source” not only doesn’t mention any specific brand but also explicitly states that a white house spokesperson advised that the thing obama is holding in the photo is not a pack of cigarettes?

to quote another person in this thread, please stop it with this nonsense.

Oh ok man. Relax. Have a cigarette.

Oldest trick in the book. Put the racist stereo type remarks in and nobody pays attention.

Out of all the things to be upset about when a gallon of milk is $6.30.

I'm watching the movie as I type this. The entire thing is a satire - filled with stereotypes and cliches. It takes shots at Jews. Muslims. White people. Black people. Straight people. Gay people.

It's intentionally inappropriate. It's a comedy!

You do know there are Newport Reds right?

It’s almost worse that you’re offended on behalf of cigarettes 😂

That is 100% a pack of Marlboro cigarettes. He is pulling one out.

There are plenty of articles on his smoking habit it wasn’t a well kept secret. You can do your own homework.

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Here asshole. That’s from HIS WIFE. Hope that’s credible.

>What brand does Obama smoke?

>Michelle Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times in 2004 that Obama smoked Marlboros. While he's still thought to prefer Marlboro Reds, he also admitted that he "bummed" cigarettes during his 2008 campaign, so he may not be a Reds purist.

source

He’s getting a bit too worked up over it, but you guys are pretty damn stupid lol. He’s saying it’s not true that he smokes newports and that the joke is altering reality to fit a racial stereotype (whether that stereotype is true or not).

how does this unattributed quote prove your argument? it clearly states that he may not have been a purist because he bummed cigarettes.

i don’t think you fully understand how this whole debating things works.

you’re also positively freaking out over a single, unimportant joke in the first 5 minutes of a 120 minute movie. touch grass man

You’re fucking incredible man. I could show up to your house with Obama right now and light up a whole carton of Marlboro Reds and you’d still have a come back.

You People.

bro for real. dude is absolutely losing it

But you’re saying it’s a racist stereotype to say Obama smoked menthols when it’s factually accurate to say people in his demographic are more likely to smoke them

you’re hysterical, man. like full fight or flight adrenaline rush over a blurry photo of obama holding a vaguely rectangular thing.

have you ever tried mindfulness exercises?

There’s plenty of other sources. Move along troll.

all i gotta say is that there is an observable reason that you’re getting mercilessly ratio’d 🤷‍♂️

Because you all feel like bullying someone right now. You’re all still wrong, it’s fine.

hey man. your judgment is fully sound. your facts are checked and there is a 0% chance that obama ever smoked a newport in his life. and comedy has to exclusively be based in fact. this is factual and cannot be argued. thank you for taking the time to educate the rest of us single-brain-celled plebes. your genius knows no bounds and truly you are the king of cigarettes. may your throne be always acrid and properly yellowed from nicotine stains. 🙄

>I’m not a progressive far left crying bleeding heart liberal.

No way!

I got the impression that this movie doesn’t really know what it is. It wants to say something, like Look Whose Coming To Dinner, but is filled with really broad, goofy comedy that belongs in a Zucker Brothers movie. It has a lot of talented artists attached to it, both behind the camera and in front, but I can’t help feeling that it could’ve been better if they would have stuck with one tone.

You’re pathetic. You’re wrong and so now you mock the conversation because you lost. Just move along dude.

it’s actually weird that you think a conversation can be “won”

Holy shit. Please man leave me the fuck alone.

I said Obama smokes Marlboros. He does as confirmed by numerous sources and his wife. You said he didn’t. I showed you he did. Therefore you lost and are just pushing buttons now. So stop.

You're a fucking loser is what you are.

You're the one freaking out.

Imagine thinking you're being downvoted on Reddit for being too liberal.

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>>Black men kill black man. Looks for a reason to be mad at the white man.

Yeah and you’re a real winner man. Stellar insight.

I believe this person was taking the piss

Reading OPs reply’s to the comments is just fucking hilarious like imagine getting this feral over a throwaway like in a movie about what cigarettes someone smokes 😭😭😭 (edit: OP has got a burner account and is using it to defend themselves, this is truly unhinged behaviour)

Did you pay any attention to the last 20 minutes or so at all?

Pretty clear this wasn’t “just for LOLs”

Exactly, thank you.

Jesus Christ you’re taking this more seriously than I am if you think I’m going the burner route lol. There’s like one random just calling people dickheads. Everyone else is just jumping on me cause it’s the it thing to do.

It’s a joke. It was a joke post to start for the most part. People are just so stupid man that I gotta then at least attempt to set them straight.

Ok...maybe I meant don't be such a bitch and grow some thicker skin....😆and I do love me some KFC!

> It’s a joke.

Mhm ofc it was that’s why you became completely unhinged and started swearing at everyone and getting into long exchanges. Great sense of humour you got there pal 🤡

I’m not personally offended by this. It’s just stupid and inaccurate. I was annoyed by the lazy joke more than anything.

I love all stereotypes. Not KFC though. That’s too spicy for my white ass. See jokes!

I said Marlboros are the anti Newport, lol.

Come on man stop just trying to start shit. Move along.

Oh ya it’s me that’s the one that’s trying to start shit😂😂😂 incredible

I’m not starting anything. I had a factual point to prove and I did. I can’t help it if you people can’t read. Now bye.

I do.

However, himself and his wife are on the record saying he smokes Marlboros. I have no stock in Phillip Morris or reason to make this up I promise.

Not to mention, if they are Newport Reds my point is the same. The joke is predicated around the menthol stereotype and Newport being the historically “Black” cigarette as they only produced menthols in most markets up until around the late 90s early 2000s and it was argued their advertising often appealed to the “colored community.”

Buy your milk at Costco.

Agreed. Is it crass? Yes. Is some of the humor cheap? Yes. Is every stereotype on the table to be poked at? Yes. I’m totally fine with a satirical movie that is willing to poke at each group’s hypocrisy. There are some cringy moments for me during the movie but it’s all part and parcel for an attempt at making fun of everyone and everything.