mamercus-sargeras t1_j9hp7qy wrote on February 22, 2023 at 1:22 AM

Reply to comment by BlackJesus420 in Massholes are moving north to NH at record levels by EgonEggnog

I don't really know the right solution to attract more productive young people. A lot of the issue just has to do with the housing stock being inappropriate for what most young people want and can afford, which is a nationwide problem. In our town, we've had one apartment building conversion go well, but the forces of NIMBY defeated another proposed development on the basis that the town needed "more forest." NH's issue isn't necessarily jobs (apart from professional white collar jobs anywhere that isn't the south), but that the housing stock for the productive slices of the population just isn't there.

I moved from NYC about a decade ago and I vote straight GOP every election even when I know the candidate is a criminal, a degenerate, or both.

lMickNastyl t1_j9hv4vm wrote on February 22, 2023 at 2:06 AM

Saying that a town in NH needs more forest is like saying the Atlantic needs more water.

raxnbury t1_j9hvhwt wrote on February 22, 2023 at 2:09 AM

You’re fighting people that are either independently wealthy or have a really healthy retirement and don’t want any new development to up their cost of living.

lMickNastyl t1_j9hw146 wrote on February 22, 2023 at 2:13 AM

Ya the boomer generation really missed the part where you're supposed to set the table for the next generation. We don't want free food but I swear that boomer mentality is all about eating everything on the table and leaving as little as possible.

I've met plenty of generous older folks and many selfish young ones. But that toxic thinking is something you usually see from the retiree crowd.

MagicalPeanut t1_j9ii6bq wrote on February 22, 2023 at 5:15 AM

>on't really know the right solution to attract more productive young people. A lot of the issue just has to do with the housing stock being inappropriate for what most young people want and can afford, which is a nationwide problem. In our town, we've had one apartment building conversion go well, but the forces of NIMBY defeated another proposed development on the basis that the town needed

The problem is 100% jobs. The jobs go where the people go, and the people are in cities.

Are you a young college student from MIT looking for an internship? In Boston you're looking at Nvidia, Adobe, Dell, AMD, IBM, and so on. Looking for a tech job in New Hampshire? Good luck. Boston is also packed with hospitals for medical school students. The only noteworthy teaching hospital in New Hampshire is in the middle of nowhere.

Is there a housing problem? Yes, but it's for the people living in New Hampshire and working in New Hampshire. My company can't hire software engineers fast enough, even when starting fresh out of college with 0 experience $90k +$10k singing bonuses. Unfortunately not everyone can can work remotely, but the people that can can outbid 90% in this state—getting those talented young people up here would be no problem if there was work for them.

For scale, I got offered a job for $85k in this state but am making $130k working remotely for a company in Massachusetts (no income tax either btw). I'd probably be around $180k if I wanted to commute but I ain't about that life. So I work for a slave wage because I choose to live and work from up here, but I'm still far better off than most people in NH where I'd be just one of many in Cambridge.

Per the article: I'd like to see a survey from the people choosing to move up here from Massachusetts. Are they remote workers doing what I do? Or are they GOP migrants that are uneducated and couldn't afford to live down there?

no0bslayer9 t1_j9iiyx9 wrote on February 22, 2023 at 5:23 AM

You calling 130k a slave wage is the most offensive thing about this thread

MagicalPeanut t1_j9ijzfc wrote on February 22, 2023 at 5:33 AM

It's all relative based on where you are, and what field you work in.

Lower-middle class Americans all live like kings if you ask 50% of the rest of the world. Then compare this area to somewhere where $160k base salary + $90k year 1 signing bonus + $80k year 2 signing bonus + $400k worth of RSUs vested over 4 years (5%, 15%, 40%, 40%) is the norm and we are just drops in a bucket. Everything scales. The easiest way to find success post-pandemic is to work for as competitive of a company as you can find while living in the cheapest area they will let you move to.

(btw I meant it kind of half-jokingly but sarcasm doesn't always translate well)

AnythingToAvoidWork t1_j9l48t9 wrote on February 22, 2023 at 7:39 PM

If you can quit your job and easily walk into another job within a month and not worry about running out of money it's quite literally not a "slave wage" job.

This is so embarrassingly out of touch. Comparing min/maxing finances with wage slavery is the douchiest thing I've read in a long time.