Intru t1_j9ih022 wrote on February 22, 2023 at 5:03 AM

Reply to comment by GonzoTheGreat22 in Massholes are moving north to NH at record levels by EgonEggnog

Or you know we can de-center car oriented development and you know prevent sprawl, promote livable density and promote rail down to mass and other work corridors so that less traffic happens. A lot of our community's urban centers and older suburb could use some density and could handle a modest bump-up in it. It's a win win we keep sprawl outside of the woods and we increase housing without going full 10 story towers, not like that was going to ever happen anyways, especially when most recidencial zoned land in the state is reserved for single family which is part of the reason why we can't build more affordably (yes i know there's a lot of other factors as well) just preamting the density means skyscraper crowd.

GonzoTheGreat22 t1_j9j5m3b wrote on February 22, 2023 at 10:07 AM

You’re not wrong. But I would point you to exhibit A: every single one of you fives in a town and every single one of those towns has a FB page. And every single time something new or different or expansive is mentioned or begun, every slack jawed generational townie sharpens their pitchfork to go on there and say “ we’re becoming Massachusetts!!!1!” All because an apartment complex is being erected.

They cite the traffic it will cause while complaining about those people not working. They complain that it will overburden the school though there are less families with children per capita in apartments than in single fam neighborhoods. They bitch about the infrastructure while complaining about paying to upgrade the infrastructure.

It doesn’t matter. People complain. Progress is necessary and it’s hard because someone’s grandpa didn’t need a rail system to Boston.

Intru t1_j9kmjf4 wrote on February 22, 2023 at 5:51 PM

Oh I'm with you on this, with one correction, most of our grandparent, us millennials and boomers, actually did need/use trains to Boston, and pretty much every single town in NH up to the 1950s that how we moved around. Although not in NH my grandfather always complained about that we got rid of trains, trolleys, and train travel, he always lamented how annoying and stressful it is to drive into our state capital, San Juan, with a car and wished the trains were still there. The man was a coffee farmer from the sticks and still could see the value of good public transit.

GonzoTheGreat22 t1_j9l780h wrote on February 22, 2023 at 7:57 PM

I’m 1000% with you. But people still bitch.

These will complain about ‘Big Government’ spending our hard earned tax dollars on trains that only out of towners will use to rob our homes and violate the good name of our women. Shit, the state (I won’t tell you which side of the aisle) has already shut down the study, BEING PAID FOR BY FEDERAL FUNDS, into rail continuation feasibility.