DrTartakovsky t1_jaenbje wrote on February 28, 2023 at 9:55 PM

Reply to comment by VenserSojo in John Delee Denied Bail & Judge said “Not Justifiable Self Defense” by bwamike

Someone had sucker punched him in the bar first. He reacted to being suckered. Not excusing his actions but context is important.

CumSicarioDisputabo t1_jaevimx wrote on February 28, 2023 at 10:51 PM

He walked outside looking to continue the fight, he could have got in someone's car or uber and it would have been over. Self defense won't stand.

Different_Ad7655 t1_jaezn2d wrote on February 28, 2023 at 11:20 PM

Right, and he got pissed. If they had been no gun involved maybe he might have sucker punched the guy back out on the street and it would have just been assault or something like that. That's exactly the whole point. He brought a gun. Or God forbid, just left. But no no way too much testosterone for that

VenserSojo t1_jaensxl wrote on February 28, 2023 at 9:58 PM

This is true, and this is also why innocence is assumed rather than guilt as the prosecution could be full of shit. people say the video is damning though from my perspective it is vague minus the part you just reference so witnesses are the key to this case.

DrTartakovsky t1_jaeo8w7 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 10:01 PM

Outside, in the video, he is surrounded on three sides, then gets suckered again. On video. The sucker punch was enough to lacerate his temple, so Pouliot must have been wearing rings, or potentially brass knuckles, which now covers assault with a deadly weapon. No one is innocent in this case, but it’s preposterous to rule without hearing all the facts from both sides, that Delee could not have had any reasonable suspicion that his life was in danger.