Submitted by rocio719 t3_11ae6q4 in newhampshire
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boyrock84 t1_j9rpnou wrote
Among the licenses that would be repealed include individual barbering and cosmetology licenses as long as the facility is licensed, licensed nursing assistants and medical technicians, radiation therapists who administer radiation treatment to cancer patients and nuclear medicine technologists who administer the drugs used for various screenings and MRI technologists. - wmur
MethBearBestBear t1_j9tdb3z wrote
The whole point is without the licensing requirement if you go to a place like super cuts you probably will have let someone who hasn't studied cut your hair at some point. How do you know? If you ask do you ask every time? What about someone who is travelling how would they know? If only there was some type of way to tell people this person is competent is keeping their tools clean...because the license is not that you are good at cutting hair it is that you can cut hair without cutting the person...
cwalton505 t1_j9u669l wrote
Based on the time I went to Supercuts i left there with the impression they certainly didn't study to cut hair.
nhbruh t1_j9uarzv wrote
Well, yeah. You wouldn’t go to Jiffy Lube for transmission service. Experience and education matter.
cwalton505 t1_j9ub0pt wrote
Exactly my point
greenglasstree t1_j9yeus5 wrote
I wouldn't go to a low end hair salon anyways.
Eliminating a licence requirement is only going to make affluent New Hampshirite women go to Massachusetts to find a top-of-the-industry hair stylist.
Just like how affluent New Hampshirites already go to Massachusetts for luxury shopping, luxury services, and rare disease doctors.
rocio719 OP t1_j9tgn42 wrote
That was terrible and I should’ve done a little more research before posing the question but as another user posted it seems to be focused on out of staters looking to move to NH but hitting that licensing barrier. There were a lot of good points made on this thread so still glad I asked.
Just a side note, we’ve been told/being prepared for our state board exams and our instructors have emphasized that they don’t even look for how well you perform a service, what they are really looking for is proper hygiene, cleaning, disinfecting and sanitation practices. We can wrap a perm like complete garbage but putting my comb down once picked up is a huge no-no.
rocio719 OP t1_j9rh88i wrote
Current Cosmetology student here and wondering if I should quit school now because what is the point of spending my time/money if this approved? Barbering and Cosmetology licensing seem to be at the top of the list to go. Curious what are everyone’s thoughts on this in general.
RickyDaytonaJr t1_j9rigrn wrote
Stay in school and learn how to do hair properly. I tried to cut my son’s hair once and thought to myself, “this can’t be that hard.” He ended up looking like Jim Carrey’s character in Dumb and Dumber.
underratedride t1_j9ts9uc wrote
I cut my kids hair without any training. That being said, I’ve watched someone cut my hair for 30 years so I was pretty confident I could do ok. Couple hundred haircuts is definitely a type of experience.
Anyone know what licenses/boards are potentially being removed?
Mountain_takeover t1_j9rl1wj wrote
Stay in school and get experience. A state license doesn't make the person. You can be your own boss without added fees.
DeerFlyHater t1_j9rj2i0 wrote
Personal opinion is you completing school and becoming licensed(if still an option) will make your career more portable. You never know when you'll decide to up and move.
Having more things to pad your resume in your desired field is rarely a bad thing.
weveran t1_j9rjbrr wrote
My sister is a master stylist, the education is very important. As you progress your career, the amount you can charge people is based on much more than your license. You'll take additional classes after you start working to learn products, specific color brands, etc.
lantonas t1_j9rtsj1 wrote
So you're saying people pay for the result and not because the stylist is licensed?
littleirishmaid t1_j9ruk6c wrote
They are speaking to the education aspect, which should continue their entire career.
weveran t1_j9s6apk wrote
Exactly!
ralettar t1_j9rpwfa wrote
You should read what’s actually being proposed first
littleirishmaid t1_j9rwayw wrote
This plan has not been enacted yet, and from reading another article posted here, it seem that it may be focused t those people that hold licenses from other states not having to obtain a NH license, too.
Ask your instructor what they think about this. You may think they want to save their job, but they will also give you insight as to the benefits of becoming a trained professional. You should plan to continue your education for your entire career, always learning, constantly advancing.
wackybones t1_j9t5fah wrote
In the same boat but yeah definitely stay in school and get proper education/training.
ShortUSA t1_j9ujn3v wrote
The bill doesn't mean you won't have to compete for customers. Hopefully the education you're getting and certificate or whatever they will issue to you will make you more desirable to customers. Also, after you've done it for a while and know your stuff you won't have to attend "continuing education" classes to keep you're licence up. It's better to be able to attend the classes you think will help you rather than some state approved set of classes that might be of no use.
chait1199 t1_j9t3xyf wrote
Overall, I welcome these changes. Some of the listed licenses are just unnecessarily bureaucratic and frankly pointless. However, I haven’t read much into the bill but on the cosmetology and barbering side, how the hell are we supposed to verify whether someone is a qualified barber??? Are they flat out eliminating those licenses or just revising the boards to make it easier for out of staters to reciprocate?
Honestly just glad they aren’t eliminating licenses for professions where real harm can be done to consumers. (Nurses, doctors, gas license, etc)
Bassin-Jaysin t1_j9t8o6h wrote
Actually there is a lot to being a stylist. If your ok with them not being licensed then let them wax your eyebrows and color your hair and see how your experience goes. most stylist spend more time fixing at home haircuts and dye jobs then anything else. Working with hair/product chemicals and understanding how they work can be dangerous. This is why it pays to be licensed and not end up with a lawsuit.
Lords_of_Lands t1_j9tjvol wrote
There's a big range between getting your hair cut and getting it styled.
thisisntshakespeare t1_j9twko6 wrote
I was thinking about infections in regard to cosmetology. Nail fungi etc, I wouldn’t trust an unlicensed worker for practically anything. Isn’t the purpose of a professional license the fact that it’s a sign of professionalism and a guard against malpractice? A business screws up and their license to practice is in jeopardy.
An unlicensed cosmetologist uses unsterile materials and repeated customers get eye infections. What recourse do the customers have? Does the cosmetologist stay in business? There’s no license to lose.
greenglasstree t1_j9yfazm wrote
Legit, this is only going to make affluent New Hampshirite women even more dependent on Massachusetts than before. Educated, rich New Hampshirite women already go to Massachusetts for luxury shopping, and other luxury services. Now they will also go to Massachusetts for haircuts, eyebrow microblading, eyebrow plucking, pubic hair removal, and to get their nails done.
greenglasstree t1_j9yf412 wrote
There are so many infections that stem from low quality nail salons with shady hygienic practices.
Cosmetology done poorly can give you nail fungus, eye infections, accidental cuts on your skin, etc. I've heard of people who got 2nd degree burns because they got poorly done hair removal in Thailand.
xcsler_returns t1_j9tcauq wrote
I've never checked if my barber is licensed. I've always relied on friends or have just taken my chances. It has not been a problem.
veganprovolone t1_j9rsbd1 wrote
does anyone know what licenses they’re talking about? or a link to a list of them? i’ve been googling but i can’t find anything. as a social worker i am super interested to see if our licensing is gonna be touched.
wetsockssuckass t1_j9rtlbu wrote
Found this slightly older article with a little more detail
littleirishmaid t1_j9rvf4p wrote
Interesting. States certain professions can practice with an out of state license to encourage those moving here, but doesn’t state it will do away with current licensing practices for those that do not currently hold one.
veganprovolone t1_j9rxka2 wrote
thank you this is what i was looking for! child care licensing unit is untouched bc DHHS is in charge. thank god.
thisisntshakespeare t1_j9tv2p0 wrote
But apparently, Rep Ross Berry (R) Manchester wants to change all that. He is on a special committee on Child Care (and also runs a child care business- conflict of interest much?) and would (if I read his quote correctly) want these deregulations to impact child care.
https://newhampshirebulletin.com/2023/02/15/pay-hikes-school-funding-licensing-reform-highlight-sununu-spending-plan/ (Same article as above)
goddammnick t1_j9u6ypo wrote
> But apparently, Rep Ross Berry (R) Manchester wants to change all that. He is on a special committee on Child Care (and also runs a child care business- conflict of interest much?) and would (if I read his quote correctly) want these deregulations to impact child care.
He is your average undereducated young republican.
veganprovolone t1_j9u399l wrote
child care is different in this context than the context i care about. i work at a residential treatment facility, which is handled differently than a daycare which is what he is referring to.
atariNH t1_j9ui3ih wrote
Here's the list of boards & licenses: https://www.wmur.com/article/new-hampshire-proposed-repealed-boards-licenses-22223/43033540
kitchinsink t1_j9tqxpw wrote
I mean, I get this, and I'm not too upset about it, but at the end of the day having licensing and standards for people who are using dangerous chemicals and razor blades near your face and neck isn't the worst idea. The threat of losing your license is one of the reasons people are careful.
smartest_kobold t1_j9t9kao wrote
Anybody have the actual list? There's some credentials that make sense to be transferable between states and some that don't.
Competitive_Bit_1455 t1_j9toc9g wrote
If NH eliminates licensure requirements and does not monitor the industries, what happens when things go wrong? Is anyone responsible? If an electrician, not licensed, wires a house and it burns down, and the insurance guy or the fire marshall investigating determines it is faulty wiring, what happens?
Jam5quares t1_j9uox27 wrote
Electricians aren't on the list of proposed cuts. Even so, the state license is not what actually qualities someone to do the job or ensures good outcomes. An electrician for example would still take electrical courses and vet experience in the field with a qualified company or apprentice under a master electrician. You as a consumer are still allowed to ask for their experience and qualifications, ensure that they are insured, etc.
If an electrician fucks a job up bad, they won't be in business very long. The free market has more expediant and balanced ways for handling this type of failure than the government does.
greenglasstree t1_j9yel2k wrote
Eliminating cosmetology licences is just going to make affluent New Hampshirite women go to Massachusetts to get top quality haircuts.
dfresh429 t1_j9s2n6s wrote
Curious if anyone knows if this applies to Mass Teaching license now qualifying in NH?
8kib t1_j9um8pa wrote
Based
Burger-King-Covid t1_j9sbbfh wrote
There goes Keene beauty school
xcsler_returns t1_j9tdm8q wrote
I think a school to learn skills is still valuable. Not needing a license doesn't negate the need to learn the skills. The beauty school may need to change its focus or offer a wider variety of courses but I don't think it needs to close shop. Just a guess. We'll see.
wetsockssuckass t1_j9rn9cf wrote
Terrible coverage as usual from wmur. Doesn’t even link the actual bill so people can read specifics and understand further , they are such a garbage organization…like so many
Like others say, stay in school to learn your skill. Whether a license is required or not I am certainly not going to let someone who hasn’t studied in the field to cut my hair…you r schooling will definitely be worthwhile but totally understand why you would pose your question after watching that.
Remember, it still has to pass house and senate