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pinetreesgreen t1_jdjeuxg wrote

Reply to comment by vexingsilence in NH House passes abortion-rights protections by IBlazeMyOwnPath

I'm not even sure you can describe a definition of a convenience abortion. What is that? Is having an abortion so you can take care of your other kids a lifestyle abortion? Probably by your definition. But not to the woman caring for 2 kids and already struggling.

If you approve of one kind of abortion when the womans life is in danger, you don't actually think it's murder. It would still be murder. You just want to control a woman's body based on some outdated notion of morality, but understand her dying without an abortion is really messed up and unpopular.

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vexingsilence t1_jdjj6kq wrote

>If you approve of one kind of abortion when the womans life is in danger, you don't actually think it's murder.

Didn't say I approved of it, did I? You were using a very weak debating tactic. It's like people that bring up disabled people or children in a discussion that isn't about them, just to try to divert the flow.

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pinetreesgreen t1_jdjk6no wrote

You said before women should be able to get abortions if their life is in danger.

So now we are just debating if You get to control them in all other situations or not based on arbitrary personal morality. The murder thing clearly isn't real, just an excuse for control. It can't be murder only in one situation, but not in another, correct?

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moneyforsoy t1_jdkmi09 wrote

>It’s like people that bring up disabled people or children in a discussion that isn’t about them, just to try to divert the flow.

this guy a few comments ago:

>There are grown adults with conditions that prevent them from feeling pain. Can we terminate them?

I tried, too. You’re better off saving your energy for someone more receptive and capable of thinking critically.

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vexingsilence t1_jdlgc97 wrote

Context matters. Saying it's okay because they don't feel pain, a rare disorder involving not feeling paid is relevant despite being rare since it's directly on point.

Like I said in the first quote, bringing up a thing that isn't about it.. that's a situation where something isn't on point.

One of these things is not like the other.

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vexingsilence t1_jdlgg4l wrote

>It can't be murder only in one situation, but not in another, correct?

If you kill someone in self defense, is that murder? You have the thinking skills of a rock.

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Cantide756 t1_jdlrfyh wrote

Logic won't change their minds, in their hearts, they know its wrong because they use pro choice instead of pro abortion. They want it as birth control, so they don't have to worry about being responsible for remembering to take a pill or use a condom. The purpose of sex throughout the history of life is to procreate, but no one wants the responsibility, just the pleasure. If they put into law that the father could "abort" the financial responsibility, you would hear them saying all this stuff about a baby is a natural consequence of sex and they agreed to the risk when they agreed to sex. Double standards are rife when it comes to being pro abortion. And the reasoning they use to try and justify it are smoke screens, try and compromise by saying "to save the mothers life" or "for instances of rape and/or incest" doesn't satisfy them because they know that's only a token amount of the numbers. Vast majority are for selfish reasons, even the word convenience shouldn't be accepted. If you are in a situation where you can't afford or handle or want a baby and you don't want to use, can't afford, or can't use the myriad of other forms of birth control, you should abstain. Oh, they want to protect women from getting back alley abortions because they are going to find a way, even if image and illegal? That's their choice, they don't make a robbery legal to protect the life of a criminal do they? And you can't forget the racial component, I think the count reached 20 million black children being aborted? FFS, planned parenthood was started by a eugenics enthusiast.

At the end of the day, pro abortionists are selfish narcissists, using the same faulty logic they used during slavery to dehumanize a class of people to make it ok to murder them. They will spin whatever they can to make a "right" out of not having to take responsibility for their actions.

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