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z-eldapin t1_jbbva9f wrote

Reply to comment by greenglasstree in Transgender students at center of new bills in New Hampshire by flounder19

First it was interracial relationships. They lost that fight.

Then it was LGB. They lost that fight.

So they've moved on to the next one. And they will lose, but it will be a fight.

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greenglasstree t1_jbbwbyx wrote

So whom will they target in 10 years?

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flounder19 OP t1_jbbxdrz wrote

Possibly still trans people. It's not like the fight over gay rights was resolved in 10 years (it's still very much ongoing in some ways). And gay people are more common than trans people which helped humanize them to the opposition. A lot of people have never met anybody trans so they're extra susceptible to fear mongering about them

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YBMExile t1_jbc1xx6 wrote

I think they think they’ve never met anyone trans, but many have and don’t even know.

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greenglasstree t1_jbckurq wrote

Every single trans man I have gotten to know was someone I assumed to be cis until they said they were trans.

For whatever reason 90% of trans men pass but 90% of trans women don't pass. I have probably walked past at least 5 or 6 trans men in my lifetime and not even noticed that they were trans.

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ninjamansidekick t1_jbcmq19 wrote

There is a concern among some lesbian groups that the "transing of kids" is leading to a decline in lesbians. There is some data to suggest that many young women who now identify as "trans" would have been lesbian a decade ago.

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GhostHost1000 t1_jbejmip wrote

Just curious, are you a lesbian? Because I am, and am in a whole lot of "lesbian groups," and I do not know a single person who finds this to be remotely a concern.

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ninjamansidekick t1_jbeost5 wrote

No, and it's quite possible the info I had read was anecdotal. I have spent more time than I should in the literature on transgenderism in an effort to better understand my kid. The problem I quickly found is that solid info is hard to find, as most is propaganda for one side or the other. I also found that sources outside the US often tended to be less political and more data driven. But admittedly the "Terf" movement in Britain may be the source for my original thought, and that would certainly make it anecdotal as they do not represent mainstream LBG views in the US.

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greenglasstree t1_jbcuzdt wrote

So trans is a subset of intersex people. Specfically, transgender people were born with the external genitals of one biological sex, but the brain structure of the other biological sex.

A simple brain scan can determine transgender status for people who think that they might not be cisgender.

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ninjamansidekick t1_jbd1cvc wrote

My understanding is that is not quite true. While a Trans women's brain may have a thicker cortex which is more common among females the extra volume is not in the same areas as is common in females, and more to my original point my understanding is these comparison were between trans identifying individuals and heterosexual brain scans, would we see the same differences when compared to a homosexual brain scan? The brain stuff is very interesting, but I do not think it is as conclusive as activists on either side of this issue want it to be.

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ArbitraryOrder t1_jbizdfx wrote

Whatever the immigrant group that is inconvenient at the time. So Chinese people

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greenglasstree t1_jbk00r6 wrote

It's curious that white supremacists love to bash African and Latino Americans for poverty, low education, family breakdown, welfare dependence, and crime.

And in the same breath they bash Asian and Ashkenazi Jewish Americans for being "too interested" in education, employment, not using food stamps, and having stable nuclear families.

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z-eldapin t1_jbbx1f4 wrote

I'm not kreskin. I can't predict the future.

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sheila9165milo t1_jbep8cv wrote

Anyone they can punch down on, whoever that will be, when they find someone or some group they don't like, which is pretty much everyone who isn't them.

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Icy-Neck-2422 t1_jbbze3w wrote

They keep working on the edge cases of the edge cases. In 5 years they will be fixated on a toaster named Kevin.

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