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isiscarry t1_jbivjrw wrote

Reply to comment by ArbitraryOrder in Kusterand and Pappas vote to keep troops in Syria despite no authorization to have them there. Why? by klem18

How is us occupying Syria somehow “anti-imperialist”.

What are you a Raytheon consultant lol? What conflict have you served in and who are you willing to lose from your family to make this happen?

Bloodthirsty interventionists like you NEVER have skin in the game, outside of stock portfolios that is.

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ArbitraryOrder t1_jbiwwog wrote

  1. Overthrowing genocidal maniacs is a good thing and we shouldn't apologize for that. This Hitchens piece about Iraq applies all the same to Syria, except with the WMD lie from bush and Russia is using Syria as a puppet state.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2007/03/so-mr-hitchens-weren-t-you-wrong-about-iraq.html

  1. It is bloodthirsty to be an apologist for Assad and his cohort in the name of being anti-war over pro-peace and freedom. What good is avoiding war if only to live under the iron fist of a dictatorship?

  2. How many innocent people are you willing to have be slaughtered in the name of preservation of your anti-war stance so you can signal your virtuous high horse?

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isiscarry t1_jbizj7l wrote

Lol you never served in the military in your fucking life and its too obvious. Would bet my life youve never even been in a serious physical fight whatsoever.

Please just stop before you embarrass yourself further. Nobody who has skin in the game talks like you, and if you had an ounce of humility you’d’ve recognized that already.

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ArbitraryOrder t1_jbizp0i wrote

"my appeal to authority is all I need, because who cares about ethics"

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isiscarry t1_jbj043w wrote

Im not appealing to authority, Im pointing out how obvious it is that youve never served or participated in combat based on your tone and arrogance.

People like you are the definition of a coward, advocate for wars youre too afraid to participate in only to feel like a “good person” on the internet.

You don’t have what it takes, and you lack the humility to ever become the type of person who would ever be useful in a life or death situation. This is why it’s so easy for you to speak so assuredly about things you’ll never experience.

If you even live in NH and have ant contact with military people whatsoever, you would know we are over-represented in combat deaths throughout OIF/OEF, so go talk to one of those families and ask what they think.

You won’t, you can’t, and everyone reading this who served knows exactly why. The OIF generation is getting older now, its best you stop expecting your tough-guy position to go unchallenged.

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ArbitraryOrder t1_jbj5jvs wrote

>You don’t have what it takes

Ah, I see the faux-tough guy position takes are all the you have, because the Geopolitics of the situation don't add up for you so it's all personal attacks.

The only thing that matters are the ethical, strategic, and logistical concerns when determining whether or not intervention, new or continued, is a good idea. Not whether or not I could personally carry out the mission because someone on the internet needs an ego boost.

The reasons to stay on Syria are quite clear. Finish off the last of ISIL, pressure the genocidal Assad Regime, help stability for Kurdish people, undermine our geopolitical enemies in Iran and Russia. Russia being the key player here because that is a global impact with Ukraine, and with Russia and China's alliance growing, we need to undercut them everywhere we can. In addition, the United States has the obligation to help every single refugee we possibly can and if we can help Syria establish a democratic government despite the hardship recently faced that would also be miraculous.

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zizouz13 t1_jbk4gi5 wrote

So expand American imperialism essentially

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ArbitraryOrder t1_jbk85es wrote

Not at all. If another country isn't a vassal state then it isn't imperialism

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