Submitted by jessesparkell t3_121xxna in newhampshire

We’re visiting from England in May (first two weeks). I’ve done a lot of research about what we’re going to do and where we’re going to eat, but I’d really appreciate some information from local residents about how to prepare for/deal with black fly season? I’m really sensitive to insect bites and I just want to enjoy this trip of a lifetime ⭐️ I can only find generic information online so your advice is genuinely appreciated, thank you.

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Bobtom42 t1_jdnwiyl wrote

Yea, black flies and deer flies can be pretty awful in May.

Deer flies are attracted to the tallest thing, so stick a piece of duck tape with the sticky side out on top and towards the back of a baseball hat.

Head nets work too.

Other than that, I'd probably bring some extra strength hydrocortisone.

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BionicGimpster t1_jdnwv68 wrote

If really will friend on the weather and where your are planning to visit. The southern part of the state will usually have black fly hatch in early May, but it's more like early to mid June for the hatch in the White Mountains.
But it will depend on the weather. If it is warmer then normal, they may hatch earlier.

Typically, long sleeves and long pants will protect you, and I use bug repellent on my face and neck. If I'm doing something that will make me sweat I'll wear a bug head net mesh over my head.

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LordColbyJack t1_jdnx1em wrote

Black flies are more annoying than anything else, I wouldn't worry overly about bites from them. Avoid wet places and water, wear light clothing and a hat, use bug spray. You can also keep moving to keep them off of you.

Deer flies are the nasty ones, they refuse to leave you alone and their bites can hurt.

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Rough_Magician_8117 t1_jdnx8j7 wrote

I have lived here my whole life and it is nearly impossible to avoid exposure to them if you go outside. It tends to be the worst in the later afternoon and evening in my opinion, so I guess maybe try to have the majority of your outdoor activities in in the middle of the day? Also wooded areas are usually worse for bugs than developed areas.

I have never had good luck with bug sprays for any kind of insects. They always still hunt me down, but you could do some research on them and maybe something will work for you.

Hope you enjoy your time here and have safe travels.

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jessesparkell OP t1_jdny4hf wrote

Thanks for your feedback, do you have any recommendations regarding repellants? I’ve read that lavender oil is effective? Also, would you say the flies are mostly an issue in wooded areas or maybe near water or are they just everywhere?! Thanks again

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procrastinatorsuprem t1_jdnymxr wrote

Where are you traveling? I find them to be more of a problem in the woods, not my neighborhood.

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jessesparkell OP t1_jdnyxmm wrote

Thanks very much for the advice, we’ll be coming up from Boston and staying in Manchester then Meredith, probably spending some time near the lakes. I appreciate the weather is a big factor and that’s also a tricky thing to prepare for because from what I’ve read it’s pretty unpredictable in New England 🙂 I’m assuming long sleeves and pants are fairly typical in May?

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Quizicalcoatl t1_jdo064d wrote

Depending on where in the state you’re going, the season may or may not be at its peak, but you’re likely to encounter them in May regardless. They breed in running water, not stagnant or still water, so that’s where they’ll be the most. I wear a mosquito net over a hat when I’m working in my garden. Bug sprays help, but they seem to find ears irresistible. Covering up is the best bet, and May isn’t so warm in NH that you’ll be uncomfortable in long pants and shirt sleeves. Edit: also, welcome and have fun!

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BionicGimpster t1_jdo0w2d wrote

I used to live in Meredith - you should be fine there in the first 2 weeks of May from a black fly standpoint. It's not typically very warm that time of year - so long sleeves is fine, though the have been times when it's very warm - as you said - it's New England. As for Manchester - if you're in the central area, you'll have no issue with black flies - as the concrete isn't conducive to black flies. If you are staying anywhere with a lawn (garden) - you'll probably see some black flies in the first half of May.

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crourke13 t1_jdo4r6e wrote

May might be a bit too early, but check yourself for ticks after an outing in the woods. Almost all deer ticks in NH have Lyme disease. A bite does not mean you will catch it, bur the longer it stays on you, the higher the chances.

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jessesparkell OP t1_jdo4yn6 wrote

Thank you, weather-wise it sounds like a home away from home 🙂 lovely to hear from people that have lived/live in some of the areas we’re visiting. I’m sure we will encounter some flies towards the end of the break so we will prepare accordingly! Thanks again

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jessesparkell OP t1_jdo7rfw wrote

Wow, that’s really interesting, thanks for the tip 🙂 to be honest it can sometimes be the same here, we get flowers and blossoms blooming around now but it can take ages for the trees to join the party. It seems like you just wake up one day and they’re all suddenly green again!

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Whatwarts t1_jdo8vtm wrote

I have been experimenting with coconut oil for Black Fly, Deer Fly, and whatever that new little black triangle SOB is, and have had favorable results. They fly around but will not land. The downside is it is a little greasy and I feel it keeps your body a little warmer than I would like. The other thing is an overwhelming craving for a Pina Colada.

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jessesparkell OP t1_jdoa0j3 wrote

😆 laughed out loud at the pina colada, it’s my favourite cocktail. Coconut oil eh? Is there anything it can’t do? What a hero product. Thanks for the tip, anything’s worth a try 🙂

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Cashbail t1_jdob3yk wrote

Also black flies like to go for the eyes. This is important if you have little kids.

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gravity_loss t1_jdoblft wrote

They may not be too bad when you're visiting since it will be early May. Long sleeves and a head net are pretty standard. they go for the back of your neck/behind your ears, eyes, ankles, etc unguarded soft spots so be sure everything is tucked in well. You may even want gloves. They're mostly just annoying when you're outdoors but the pain and inflammation is the worst once you're home and trying to get to sleep. Depending how you react to their bites you might need antihistamine to keep the swelling and itching down. A menthol/camphor rub is real soothing if you swell up bad.

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juliegnh t1_jdocnk0 wrote

Net shirts (covers your head and arms). Long pants. They suck and their bite is worse than a mosquito. Good Luck! Oh - and watch out and always check yourself for ticks as well.

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maraq t1_jdoigb7 wrote

They're terrible in May and June, especially on hiking trails, and near lakes and when you're trying to enjoy a meal outdoors! Personally, I find they leave me alone unless I'm deep in nature but they eat my husband alive no matter where we are. If you're super sensitive to bites, your best bet is to use an insect repellent with DEET in it on any exposed or bare skin (do not spray directly on your face - spray on your hands, then wipe on the parts of your face that you want it on). Wash it off at the end of the day. I know we all want to use the safest/most natural thing possible but in my experience, natural repellents are only marginally effective. That might be fine for someone who doesn't react poorly to bites but for someone who has an allergy or will be miserable for a week after, the risk of using DEET briefly might be worth the benefits! Otherwise, wear long sleeves, long pants etc- they act as a deterrent - may and june can be mild here but rarely so warm that you have to opt for short sleeves and shorts.

If you hike or will be spending a lot of time in wooded or high grass areas where there is a great risk of encountering ticks, consider treating an outfit of clothes/shoes with "permethrin". It's something you spray or soak on fabric, let it dry and it will kill ticks, fleas and mosquitoes on contact. One treatment will last 6 weeks or 6 washes, whichever comes first. My husband and I hike regularly most summers and I usually drench a hiking outfit, couple pairs of sox, our hiking boots and hats with permethrin twice a summer (I spray everything outside, hang it up to dry overnight in my garage or somewhere outdoors) and we always come home tick free (it won't do anything to protect your exposed skin but it helps so much and you can wear long pants, long socks etc for added protection). If you have a cat, don't let it near the permethrin soaked clothes while they are wet (it's safe for them when it's dry though). Some of the ticks we have are incredibly small (like the head of a pin!) and while you should always do a tick check after spending time outdoors in NH, using permethrin will give you some confidence / peace of mind when you do!

Enjoy your trip!

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procrastinatorsuprem t1_jdoiozy wrote

Not so much in Manchester but very likely by the lakes. Some Off! Or Cutter bug spray will be plenty. In May you might still need long sleeves and pants so you might need very little spray. Dusk and dawn they'll be worst and they're also bad in the shade and moist areas.

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jessesparkell OP t1_jdomcc8 wrote

Wow, thank you for the detailed guidance, and yes we do have cats so this is very helpful. Starting to wonder if we should just avoid too much exploring of the natural areas, which seems a shame but I didn’t realise there was so many insects to consider. Naïve tourist alert 🙁

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procrastinatorsuprem t1_jdoqcny wrote

In all honesty, black flies were only ever a real problem for me on one hike I went on in my whole life. Also, one weekend my daughter had an issue with them but I had bought her a special children's all natural bug spray which I think was more of an attraction than a deterrent! Turns out it did not contain deet. I've been in NH my whole life and they've never been a real problem.

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lellololes t1_jdot66r wrote

NH is about 80% forest. There's nothing to be afraid of at all, just wear pants and socks and bring some insect repellant. Black flies are just a nuisance, they aren't a big deal. Deer flies are a really fucking annoying nuisance but they aren't everywhere. If your head is being bombarded by them you'll know. If you dont' have anything you can just wrap something around your head.

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lellololes t1_jdotsc4 wrote

What are you staying in Manchester for? It's not really a hub of anything touristy, it's just a small city. It's also not far from Meredith. If it's not too late to adjust your itenerary, I'd recommend Portsmouth NH or Portland Maine (Small cities that are better destinations), or maybe Conway NH (in the mountains) as alternatives.

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lellololes t1_jdoua0d wrote

Last year, the warmest day in May was 95F and the coldest was 53F. The lowest low was 37F. It could be like it is at home, or it might be like summer in Florida, or it might ice over at night. But it's usually pretty mild in May.

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lellololes t1_jdov9t4 wrote

Where are you going to be before Meredith? They are just an hour apart. I'd recommend just skipping it rather than going through the hassle of checking in to a hotel for a night to avoid an hour's drive. Manchester would be a good place to stop for a meal at but unless you're going to a show at the theater, I think you're adding more trouble than it's worth there.

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LordColbyJack t1_jdoxcqe wrote

Dealing with ticks is not as much of an issue as visitors think they are. Tuck pants into socks, and when you come inside strip down and do a thorough check for ticks (including in your hair). They will crawl on you for a surprisingly long amount of time before they bite.

Seeing the outdoors is well worth a few bugs.

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Able_Cunngham603 t1_jdoyacs wrote

Black flies can be anything from a minor annoyance to parasitic swarms that make you question life itself. It all depends where you are.

Most places you will be fine with regular bug spray. In really bad areas, the only thing that works is a hat with a head net.

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Big_Hoss15 t1_jdp2xy8 wrote

in terms of black flies i would just try to not wear a lot perfume/smelly stuff because i think that may attract them… everyone else’s info is pretty on point but you can also get the insect repellent candles you can find in new hampshire stores and those work okay too if you’re not a bug spray kinda gal.

i hope you have a great trip otherwise!!

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FewProfession1412 t1_jdp3i30 wrote

If you're that worried about black flies, then go someplace else. That's nothing more than a first world problem. The last thing we want to hear is someone complaining about a couple bugs annoying you.

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alkatori t1_jdp6wxn wrote

DEET on your clothes,Parmethrin on your shoes and pants, especially if you are out in the woods.

Ticks suck.

But generally aren't a problem as long as you check that you don't have one attached when you shower at night. If you do, and get Lyme it can be treated pretty easily when caught early with antibiotics.

I've also lived here my whole life, I've rarely been bothered by black flies and only had a few tick bites. Misquitos are the worst and they come out later.

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lellololes t1_jdpb1uw wrote

Even if you're doing things in Manchester and going out to dinner, it's the difference between checking in at a hotel at 9PM at a location you're not going to have much to do around and checking in at 10PM right where you want to be for the next day.

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rudyattitudedee t1_jdpe16s wrote

Stay out of the woods proper and if you hike wear a net and long sleeves. Youll really want to look for ticks more than anything though. Trust me.

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klapomardo t1_jdqcqe9 wrote

I’ve lived here my whole life and I feel like the deer flies are more of a June thing? Black flies are definitely May though. If you get a breezier day while here, that’s the day to explore the woods. Those little annoying things can’t fly in a breeze.

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Nanotude t1_jdqwsfw wrote

We camp every year the last weekend in May. They are the worst just around breakfast time and just around dinner time. How bad they are is entirely dependent on the weather. If we have a late Spring, they're entirely tolerable. If we have an early Spring, they can make your life miserable but there's usually a few hours during the day when they are bearable. Also after dark they're not as bad if you stay close to a camp fire.

It has been a relatively mild Winter this year, but I'm betting Winter will linger with us longer than usual from my perspective in the Upper Valley in Vermont (near the border of NH). You never know what you're going to get though. Particularly in New England.

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witchspoon t1_jds74p6 wrote

Don’t avoid the woods due to ticks they also like high grass areas(fields) it’s not as if they are vicious, but if you go out in nature check yourself all over for small black/brown bugs. Remove them if they are there, but usually they don’t latch on right away I stick them inside a piece of folded cello tape. If perchance you see a bullseye rash get checked for Lyme disease, but for the most part it’s fine. As for deer flies and such DEET is the go-to, or a head net. Mostly welcome to NH (in may)!

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hoodieguyyt t1_jdwqghw wrote

i’ve seen a lot of people recommending deet for repellent, and that is definitely the most effective, but try not to get it on your skin much, especially if it is a high percentage

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AWSMDEWD t1_jdxri82 wrote

1000% agree, DEET is awesome, just keep it away from plastic. Mosquitos are generally the most annoying but black flies can suck too. Ticks aren't immediately annoying but are more dangerous because deer ticks can carry Lyme disease. Do a tick check every night, especially the underarms, groin, neck, and butt cheeks, they like to hang out where it's warm. When I was a Boy Scout, my tent-mate and I would check each other's backs bc it's hard to reach.

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maraq t1_jdy954r wrote

If it makes you feel better, I lived in NH for the first 41 years of my life and I’ve never had a tick on me! My husband on the other hand seems to pick them up every time he does yard work. 😆 You can explore here safely with a few precautions (the permethrin isn’t necessary just peace of mind if you were planning lots of woods time) and one thing to know is that if ticks do get on you, they don’t bite right away and once they do they need to be attached for 24 hours to transmit most disease (so you have plenty of time to flick them off). Enjoy yourselves!

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