Submitted by smartest_kobold t3_11yr81r in newhampshire
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gmcgath t1_jd9m038 wrote
Put "libertarians" in quotation marks. (Likewise with the LPNH.)
We don't necessarily have all the facts here, but Sorens certainly appears to be ignoring the free speech principles he supposedly lives by.
liber_tas t1_jdc5y1j wrote
Minarchism, i.e. a night watchman state (Robert Nozick), is considered a strand in libertarianism. Whether policing slander is a function of that state is open for debate.
CatMoreTofu t1_jdd8tt9 wrote
Libertarians always wanted help from the government, they just simply do not understand the myriad ways in which they have/are already benefitted/ing from it. What they are against is "their money" being "given" to "others", or more simply the foundational idea that we pay taxes for services which we all use and are made more affordable by everyone paying in a little. It's a doomed philosophy that has all but been taken over by its more openly hateful proponents and bereft of any new ideas.
liber_tas t1_jdc5mg9 wrote
Read up on "minarchism", a position in broad libertarianism that allows for a minimal state.
mod-corruption t1_jd9b9to wrote
Wanting to shrink the size and scope of government is “power hungry.” Logic checks out.
Baron_Von_Ghastly t1_jdcknn4 wrote
If you use those "beliefs" to win/attempt to win positions of power but proceed to not follow those principles you were supposedly elevated to power for...
Then yes, that's one of the most clear cut power hungry shit stain things someone can do.
PM_Georgia_Okeefe t1_jd91tek wrote
fReEdOm Of SpEeCh!
n0v3list t1_jdazgwl wrote
He looks like he calls his mother 20 times a day.
HaggisMcD t1_jdbx06b wrote
More that she calls him, but he’ll stop at nothing to answer the phone. Definitely breast fed until he was 5.
LeverTech t1_jdce9l6 wrote
If only free staters could think things through.
nixstyx t1_jdcjcz9 wrote
>Deshaies states in his response that he never tried to get Sorens fired from any job. He contacted Saint Anselm to ask if Sorens was teaching from his Free State Manifesto, which advocates for seceding from the United States and calls for abolishing all government.
So the guy is upset that people are learning who he is and what he stands for? It's not slander if you're just sharing something he wrote. That's the thing about free speech. You can say or write (pretty much) whatever you want, but that doesn't make you immune from the consequences of your own actions.
gravitybongresin t1_jdcgslk wrote
Guess he doesn't actually value free speech all that much. Shocking
TheMobyDicks t1_jddiikv wrote
Ahh, irony. I see what you did there.
liber_tas t1_jdc6kag wrote
Where is the line between slander and free speech? In our current system, that is decided by the government courts.
FlyingLemurs76 t1_jdcia4b wrote
Reading the article there wasn't anything close to slander, he seems upset that his political ideology has received backlash. Which you need to prepared for if you're employed by a university, economic research group, and running for a planning board.
nixstyx t1_jdcjt3k wrote
Well, yes, that's literally how the law works. The legislative branch passes the law and the judicial branch interprets the law. If you'd sincerely like to know where the line is, I suggest studying case law. Lots of decisions and precedent to read through here: https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/encyclopedia/case/63/libel-and-slander
TXblindman t1_jdcq7sf wrote
Absolutely love this website, was very helpful in my constitutional law class last semester.
liber_tas t1_jdcuu7h wrote
Yes, so someone might think they're slandered, the court might decide not. Not sure what your point is though.
PM_Georgia_Okeefe t1_jdcznd6 wrote
Being upset by what someone is saying about you doesn't mean it's slander.
liber_tas t1_jddm1lu wrote
Yes. That's why we have courts to decide what is and what isn't.
[deleted] t1_jd90tuc wrote
Now the libertarians want help from the government? 😂 These people are just power hungry nothing else