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[deleted] t1_jd90tuc wrote

Now the libertarians want help from the government? 😂 These people are just power hungry nothing else


gmcgath t1_jd9m038 wrote

Put "libertarians" in quotation marks. (Likewise with the LPNH.)

We don't necessarily have all the facts here, but Sorens certainly appears to be ignoring the free speech principles he supposedly lives by.


liber_tas t1_jdc5y1j wrote

Minarchism, i.e. a night watchman state (Robert Nozick), is considered a strand in libertarianism. Whether policing slander is a function of that state is open for debate.


CatMoreTofu t1_jdd8tt9 wrote

Libertarians always wanted help from the government, they just simply do not understand the myriad ways in which they have/are already benefitted/ing from it. What they are against is "their money" being "given" to "others", or more simply the foundational idea that we pay taxes for services which we all use and are made more affordable by everyone paying in a little. It's a doomed philosophy that has all but been taken over by its more openly hateful proponents and bereft of any new ideas.


liber_tas t1_jdc5mg9 wrote

Read up on "minarchism", a position in broad libertarianism that allows for a minimal state.


mod-corruption t1_jd9b9to wrote

Wanting to shrink the size and scope of government is “power hungry.” Logic checks out.


Baron_Von_Ghastly t1_jdcknn4 wrote

If you use those "beliefs" to win/attempt to win positions of power but proceed to not follow those principles you were supposedly elevated to power for...

Then yes, that's one of the most clear cut power hungry shit stain things someone can do.


n0v3list t1_jdazgwl wrote

He looks like he calls his mother 20 times a day.


HaggisMcD t1_jdbx06b wrote

More that she calls him, but he’ll stop at nothing to answer the phone. Definitely breast fed until he was 5.


LeverTech t1_jdce9l6 wrote

If only free staters could think things through.


nixstyx t1_jdcjcz9 wrote

>Deshaies states in his response that he never tried to get Sorens fired from any job. He contacted Saint Anselm to ask if Sorens was teaching from his Free State Manifesto, which advocates for seceding from the United States and calls for abolishing all government.

So the guy is upset that people are learning who he is and what he stands for? It's not slander if you're just sharing something he wrote. That's the thing about free speech. You can say or write (pretty much) whatever you want, but that doesn't make you immune from the consequences of your own actions.


gravitybongresin t1_jdcgslk wrote

Guess he doesn't actually value free speech all that much. Shocking


TheMobyDicks t1_jddiikv wrote

Ahh, irony. I see what you did there.


liber_tas t1_jdc6kag wrote

Where is the line between slander and free speech? In our current system, that is decided by the government courts.


FlyingLemurs76 t1_jdcia4b wrote

Reading the article there wasn't anything close to slander, he seems upset that his political ideology has received backlash. Which you need to prepared for if you're employed by a university, economic research group, and running for a planning board.


nixstyx t1_jdcjt3k wrote

Well, yes, that's literally how the law works. The legislative branch passes the law and the judicial branch interprets the law. If you'd sincerely like to know where the line is, I suggest studying case law. Lots of decisions and precedent to read through here:


TXblindman t1_jdcq7sf wrote

Absolutely love this website, was very helpful in my constitutional law class last semester.


liber_tas t1_jdcuu7h wrote

Yes, so someone might think they're slandered, the court might decide not. Not sure what your point is though.


PM_Georgia_Okeefe t1_jdcznd6 wrote

Being upset by what someone is saying about you doesn't mean it's slander.


liber_tas t1_jddm1lu wrote

Yes. That's why we have courts to decide what is and what isn't.