Submitted by WhiteyKC t3_xun82f in newhampshire
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Lerichard52 t1_iqwbk42 wrote
How can we have more than 100%. 1056 per thousand, something’s wrong here
ProlapsedMasshole t1_iqweu20 wrote
If only there was some source for that info...
From the article:
> How is it possible to have more than 1,000 drivers per 1,000 driving-age individuals? The Federal Highway Administration doesn’t make that clear but we suspect it has to do with data sets that do not perfectly overlap.
So it sounds like this data is indeed shit.
SheeEttin t1_iqwiuw9 wrote
The graphic is shit too. It's sorted by total drivers per thousand, but the bars aren't centered so you can't compare them.
Darwins_Dog t1_iqy3gch wrote
I've seen this type of graph before (but done well) and it works for what they want to show. It needs a central axis and more distinct colors. The bars are centered for the total population, so the line separating male and female shows how much it goes to one side or the other. Without the axis and having such close colors it doesn't work.
Darwins_Dog t1_iqy28kn wrote
That would be my guess. It's probably two different sources, which means you can't just do X/Y and call it good.
SeasonalBlackout t1_iqwc92r wrote
Easy - 56/1000 NH drivers have 2 licenses.
besafenh t1_iqxftpg wrote
Are they counting Motorcycle licenses separately?
SeasonalBlackout t1_iqy7gwh wrote
That actually seems possible and like a good explanation.
Lerichard52 t1_iqwdac9 wrote
What does that mean? A commercial and regular, I didn’t think you would need both.
draggar t1_iqwfcza wrote
I don't think you do but some people may want to keep them separate for various reasons.
I wonder if it also considers boating licenses?
Lerichard52 t1_iqwdfny wrote
Oh, I get it. Fake ids
nowhereman1223 t1_iqxaoom wrote
If it shows up on federal reporting that is a damn good fake id.
99probs-allbitches t1_iqx5etr wrote
I was thinking maybe motorcycle
ImprintVector t1_iqwura8 wrote
We’ll ya you can get all of fuckall nowhere without a car or being extremely fit in these woods.
nowhereman1223 t1_iqxa53s wrote
How do we have 51 extra drivers per 1000 drivers?
Out of 1000 eligible licensees we have 1051 licenses?
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Who's got the extra ones? Come on, share with us.
lorlorlor666 t1_iqxtoad wrote
are we licensing the children??? how do you get 1051 licensed drivers per 1000 people? are there ghosts?
New_Restaurant_6093 t1_iqyj39t wrote
And possibly ghosts.. driving is a right if you are old apparently.
FairCut7009 t1_iqyhyo4 wrote
We have a lot of college students who aren't actually residents of NH
vexingsilence t1_iqwb3mu wrote
1051 per 1000. Neat trick.
WhiteyKC OP t1_ir1uent wrote
From the source "How is it possible to have more than 1,000 drivers per 1,000 driving-age individuals? The Federal Highway Administration doesn’t make that clear but we suspect it has to do with data sets that do not perfectly overlap."
ItsMeFergie t1_iqy8gs0 wrote
Different national minimum driving ages.
vexingsilence t1_iqy9mo3 wrote
It's a state by state breakdown, NH being over 100%. As others mentioned, they're using inconsistent data sets. So they probably got population per state from one place and the number of licensed drivers from someplace else. Not a great methodology. Minimum driving ages doesn't factor into this, that might skew the overall ranking but not the individual percentages.
ItsMeFergie t1_iqya0uc wrote
So 53 out of 1053 have moved to a different state but their NH licenses are still in the data set? I mean yeah either way the whole thing is a bit out of wack
TJsName t1_iqws5l1 wrote
The numerator is reported by the state and could have some caveats (i.e., includes any active license, regardless of of the person is alive, etc.). The denominator is the estimate of people 16 & over from the census, which could have some variation. A census is also more likely to undercount people, so I think it's safe to assume that the ratio is going to skew high based on those two data sets.
Strict_Zebra_3585 t1_iqxsgij wrote
How else are you gonna get around? My drunken sister in law got a dwi and she is struggling to find ubers etc. There just aren't many around these parts.
MommaGuy t1_iqxx9fg wrote
Right. No public transportation where I am. And nothing is walking distance other than maybe the library and elementary school. Which is fine but I don’t need either.
HairRaid t1_ir08b7b wrote
Cries in librarian
MommaGuy t1_ir2lis6 wrote
Unfortunately, you can’t enlarge the text in books
djdirectdrive t1_iqz08na wrote
Yeah I'd like to see these numbers cross referenced against public transportation access
Adventurenauts t1_ir56cl3 wrote
Expect for pockets, the entire state is built only to serve cars. Not humans.
smdifansmfjsmsnd t1_iqyvf65 wrote
I’ve also seen statistics saying we have got the most vanity plates per capita. Saw another years ago saying we’re prescribed the most ADHD meds too per capita but not sure on that one. 🤣
WhiteyKC OP t1_ir1u410 wrote
So also the, Most Drivers with ADHD and Vanity Plates in the US
turg5cmt t1_iqyh6d0 wrote
How else you gonna get out of New Hampshire?
WhiteyKC OP t1_iqwb4i2 wrote
and yet you all collectively drive better than everyone in Massachusetts source
Chromosis t1_iqwi09v wrote
495 is a freaking warzone the second a snowflake touches that pavement. Don't even get me started on 95.
baroquesun t1_iqwmlqp wrote
I'll take 95 over 93 any day of the week
Thermobyte t1_iqxx6m6 wrote
Someone can't do math...
ItsMeFergie t1_iqy8bfn wrote
Everyone asking how it’s over 1000 per 1000. I am assuming since different states have a different minimum driving age the surveyors perhaps went somewhere in the middle and we’re a year or two below. Don’t just assume the person who put the data/survey together is stupid, use your critical thinking skills…
Acidiousx t1_iqyvq9v wrote
If your assumption is correct it doesn't make them any less stupid. It makes it a pretty useless data set.
ItsMeFergie t1_iqze7q2 wrote
This is true.
FairCut7009 t1_iqyhu7r wrote
Probably college students
ItsMeFergie t1_iqze785 wrote
I am a recent college grad. I did not know a single student who switched to a NH license in their 4-6 years of college. 6 being masters students.
FairCut7009 t1_irsw8ns wrote
Why would you need a NH license to vote as a college student?
FairCut7009 t1_irsx5vy wrote
II. College Student Voting New Hampshire election law provides college students with a special privilege when determining where they register to vote. A college student in New Hampshire may choose as his/her voting domicile, either the domicile he/she held before entering college or the domicile he/she has established while attending college. New Hampshire law provides the following definition of domicile: An inhabitant's domicile for voting purposes is that one place where a person, more than any other place, has established a physical presence and manifests an intent to maintain a single continuous presence for domestic, social, and civil purposes relevant to participating in democratic self-government. A person has the right to change domicile at any time, however a mere intention to change domicile in the future does not, of itself, terminate an established domicile before the person actually moves. A person’s claim of domicile for voting purposes shall not be conclusive of the person’s residence for any other purpose.
DegenGolfer t1_iqwldux wrote
It’s cause we have easier drivers Ed and less lose driving permit laws.
Like turning 15 1/2 and being able to drive with an adult is unique to NH
deathtopumpkins t1_iqx7ipc wrote
No that's pretty common actually.
E.g. Virginia gives you your permit at 15.5, and then full license 9 months later.
gregra193 t1_iqxapdr wrote
Pretty sure a permit isn’t required in NH. You can drive with a parent and your birth certificate, basically.
deathtopumpkins t1_iqxb4rr wrote
Ah I see, I thought they were claiming the age was unique to NH, not the lack of an actual permit.
a1234321 t1_iqxb2fq wrote
I remember getting my license at 15ish. The test was an absolute joke. I think I only took right turns and one left turn to pull back into the DMV.
A friend did it with the e-brake on and still passed.
Maybe they give you more slack for doing it with a manual?
finelineporcupine t1_iqx4qol wrote
"New Hampshire has the best drivers in the nation!... However, New Hampshire ranks last for wearing seatbelts, so that is a definitely an issue that needs to be worked on."
Fuck right the fuck off.
shrinkingviolet_33 t1_iqy6ff2 wrote
😂 but we should actually wear our seatbelts
Econolana t1_iqyt8jc wrote
Maybe we drive safe because we don’t wear our seatbelts though. The fear of death might just be keeping us safe.
More-Impact3644 t1_iqwtl2r wrote
Fewer kids
strattons65 t1_iqzt665 wrote
Tax fraud. New Hampshire has no state income tax. Getting your license or registration in New Hampshire Is a great way to “prove” you live in New Hampshire and thereby avoid state income tax where you really live like New York or Connecticut or Rhode island etc.
Ted_Fleming t1_ir01phh wrote
It doesn’t work like that. You need an address etc to show it is your domicile in order to claim residency. While NH has no sales or income tax the property taxes (real estate, car reg, etc) is sky high so it works out when you avg those three taxes in most surrounding states, the “NH tax advantage” is not as great as it appears
psycosven t1_ir1s01c wrote
Live in NH, work in another state, and realize the NH Tax Disadvantage... (Also be sure your life insurance is squared away because the commutes are getting even more crazy)
Ted_Fleming t1_ir2lwax wrote
It is certainly a disadvantage on the surface to work in another state and live in NH but normally its for a larger wage than the tax differential so it shouldn’t be a disadvantage otherwise you should find a job in NH.
heklakatla t1_ir52h8o wrote
This.
WhiteyKC OP t1_ir1tzqa wrote
interesting twist
ariellegon t1_iqxfarx wrote
I’ve never seen worse drivers. Half of them don’t even stop for a red light 🤡🤡🤡
ariellegon t1_iqzeie4 wrote
The downvoters also must not stop at red lights 😆🤡
Nestormahkno19d t1_iqx3ygq wrote
Because you can’t function here without a car