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amwestover t1_iqyz8gk wrote

Kids being edgy isn’t new and ain’t gonna change.

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ForklkftJones t1_iqykiqc wrote

After multiple visits to the flea market, I'm guessing their ignorant grandparents raised their ignorant parents and now both raising ignorant kids who say awful shit while grown, like-minded men on Reddit make excuses for their bad behavior.

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a1234321 t1_iqyiv0g wrote

It's actually better than it used to be. You're just an adult and notice things more.

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pbredd t1_iqyj3yw wrote

I mean better than 1950 but not better than 2012

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sndtech t1_iqylgab wrote

Much better than even 1990

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woolsocksandsandals t1_iqzz0yf wrote

I don’t think so. I think the The 90s was the period in America that it was least acceptable to be openly racist. A lot of people blame Trump for making it acceptable to be openly racist and he definitely had an effect but I think that the blatant Islamophobia of the US government after 9/11 is what really broke the dam of prejudice and it’s just been spewing ever since.

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SheenPSU t1_ir01ahm wrote

Did you happen to play Xbox during 2012??

Xbox online lobbies were some of the most toxic spaces out there. This isn’t new unfortunately

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Particular_Ad6680 t1_iqyf4zk wrote

Asshole parents, social media..?

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Phinehas427 t1_iqzf2au wrote

If there is a difference today I'd say those two things are the more relevant correlations, namely the absence of a healthy parental structure and a lot of children having full unrestricted access to social media.

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Sylvio_ t1_iqynyc6 wrote

Are you sure? Or are people more aware now than they ever were about stuff like this?

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DangleBopp t1_iqyo6zz wrote

I think this is probably the case tbh. It's always been happening, but people are only becoming aware of it in recent years

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5nd t1_ir01t8d wrote

13% of young kids commit 50% of derogatory words.

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CannaQueen73 t1_iqzhxpn wrote

Why even ask? Everyone knows the stupidity is feeling emboldened and kids learn what they see and hear. It’s fine to let every thought fall out of your face instead of having a little class and maturity while people live their lives.

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PurpleEuphrates t1_iqyhwtc wrote

Kids being edgy seems normal. Think this is less of an increase in "incidents", and more of an increase in reporting on said incidents.

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pbredd t1_iqyiife wrote

What a terrible take…. Big difference between edgy and racist in Lilly white NH…

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PurpleEuphrates t1_iqynvcr wrote

Maybe I had a wildy abnormal childhood.

I said lots of things I didn't mean. Make a list of the most offensive sentences you can string together, and I said them. Many of my peers, not even friends said them. Kids say all sorts of things, and a lot of the times they may know it's bad, but don't have the life experience or context to understand why what they're saying is bad.

Not the best analogy, but when I was a kid I drove a car down 101 at 110 mph. Would I do that today? No.

Kids do any say things they don't really mean.

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Beretta92A1 t1_iqz1k7p wrote

Not a bad take, kids can be assholes. Some are really massive ones

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firestrm_nh t1_iqzf0u7 wrote

It seems since 45 came and went a fair number of people with like beliefs have been emboldened to speak disgusting things on social and national media without much moderation. Kids hear those words at home. Kids repeat what they learn in their environment outside their environments. 🤷🏻 it really isn’t hard to connect the dots from there.

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1carus_x t1_iqyv2aw wrote

I've seen an increase in hate speech in general since 2016, more recently getting worse within the past two years

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vexingsilence t1_iqzewcl wrote

You created your profile two years ago. Coincidence?

lol, someone can't detect a joke. given the topic, probably not surprising.

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1carus_x t1_ir14wq1 wrote

I'm sorry you aren't aware of this but reddit isn't real life, which is what we are talking about, not to mention other medias exist

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lostmahbles t1_ir095d9 wrote

Honestly I think it comes from home. I moved my family out of the Bedford area after personally witnessing multiple incidents of middle school kids having racist and anti-Semitic conversations like it was nothing. Kids don't just say that stuff out of nowhere. And I'm not exactly a man about town. If I was seeing it that much when I only left my house like twice a week, you know, it's gotta be pervasive.

That was just ahead of 2016, can't imagine it's gotten any better.

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lostmahbles t1_ir0uua1 wrote

So you're saying if I got out more I'd be ok with racism and anti-Semitism? Seems like an odd conjecture.

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[deleted] OP t1_ir0wkrt wrote

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lostmahbles t1_ir0yc0c wrote

Ok cupcake. Judging by your comment history you never grew out of the "pushing boundaries for the lulz" phase. Keep going. I'm sure your mom will show you love someday if you just keep trying.

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SheenPSU t1_ir0241y wrote

What sparked this? Is this just an anecdotal observation?

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pbredd t1_ir02hf7 wrote

Kids at a 3/4 basketball tryout were heard saying it and got in trouble …. Other incidents recently here as well.

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SheenPSU t1_ir02rs3 wrote

Saying what? The n-word I assume

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pbredd t1_ir034gr wrote

Yes. And the coach was black which makes it even worse

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pbredd t1_ir08jv0 wrote

That’s bs and you know it. The word is loaded by the history of slavery and racism in this country…. If black people choose to own it and make it their own then so be it…. Whites don’t have thet luxury…. Plus I didn’t hear that word being used once during the halftime show…. Although the eight seems to have heard it 1000 times

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pbredd t1_ir0a3bq wrote

You want to be able to say it so bad don’t you? Yes they are supposed to know better if they are being patented at all… instead their parents are like you and think it’s just fine…

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pbredd t1_ir0aa3n wrote

Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from repercussions of said speech

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[deleted] OP t1_ir0b9x2 wrote

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pbredd t1_ir0bzfc wrote

Wisdom has been chasing for years… you are just faster…

Take your logical fallacies to your next klan meeting so you can all circle jerk to them

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Paper_Disastrous t1_ir0f56j wrote

Quick question, are you black?

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Paper_Disastrous t1_ir0oio9 wrote

When my toddler can't answer a simple question I default to "no" for him, so I'll go the same route with you. Because you aren't black, your opinion on who can use the nword is irrelevant.

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FreezingRobot t1_ir0ex5a wrote

I think a lot of it is two things:

  1. Hearing it from home, obviously. Some parents will say things at home that they won't say in public, and kids don't learn that unspoken lesson of not saying those things. It's the classic Northern-style racism.

  2. A lot of it is from online. You see a lot of casual racism online, and you also see a lot of POC online making the same jokes about themselves, and I'm not sure kids understand the whole "It's ok when they say it about themselves as a joke, it's not ok when you say it" thing.

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RickyDaytonaJr t1_iqyj2mr wrote

During the first wave of pandemic, I saw a woman in the grocery store complaining to her school age daughter that they “had to wear masks because the ch***s invented coronavirus”. So, yeah, it’s been a more feverish topic.

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steelymouthtrout t1_ir0ds8f wrote

Traditionally a white state that has a lot of pocs moving in in the last decade. A lot of very systemic deep rooted racism amongst the whites. It may not be cool to say it out loud but a lot of people are saying things at home and that's where it's coming from in the kids.

It's racism at home.

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pbredd t1_ir0f1al wrote

Agree 100%. But there is more isn’t there? I mean this most recent one was amongst 8 year olds… I don’t even think they understand the gravity of the word as they were using it in front of black adults and kids…. And there are those pushing for less education about the history of racism and slavery in this country… (read some of the other comments on this post). They think it’s simply about a “word” and somehow claiming to be victims … I think this country is broken for good

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granitestate420 t1_ir0j0jy wrote

Remember when you were 8? I barely do, but pretty positive I said some dumb shit....mainly because I was friggin 8 yr old....

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pbredd t1_ir0rxt2 wrote

If I had said something like that at 8 parents would have launched me into the sun…

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Huntfish_603 t1_ir0n2t8 wrote

Keyboard warriors allow kids to think they are tough and soft libs support this behavior. It will catch up with them one day.

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LBKTHREE t1_ir0mi3l wrote

As a concerned parent, how is this being noticed? Online behavior or blatantly in public?

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pbredd t1_ir0ncjw wrote

Blatantly in public

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[deleted] OP t1_ir0t7pu wrote

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pbredd t1_ir0v9u7 wrote

Ahh yes it’s drakes fault…. Is it his fault that they are also in the middle school lunchroom saying it increasingly louder to see how much they can get away with. Or kids calling eachother it while playing pick up basketball at the town courts, or the other countless times it’s been happening…. But yeah let’s not educate our kids and tell people who find racism unacceptable fragile…

Also, I didn’t overhear it, the black man running the tryouts did and kicked them off the court as he should have ..

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K_Gal14 t1_ir0q2vp wrote

I moved here a few years ago and honestly Londonderry is the least tolerant place I've ever lived in. I mean the adults have no respect for anyone not like them, why should their kids. And it's not even everyone, but man there are some people here that want to blame everyone else for their situation.

I don't have kids but I have no idea how you raise them here to be upstanding humans. I'm not sure what happened in Londonderry to make it like this but I've found the culture in the rest of NH to be so much nicer

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pbredd t1_ir0rsjt wrote

I don’t know. We moved here in the early 2000’s for PA which is pretty diverse outside of the rural areas…. It is a pretty cliquey home grown community whose residents have lived here for generations…

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Quirky_Butterfly_946 t1_ir09mcw wrote

Kids get a lot of their information online.

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pbredd t1_ir09xtd wrote

But don’t their parents know they are using this word or at least make them understand it isn’t acceptable

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Quirky_Butterfly_946 t1_ir0fb9r wrote

How do you know the parents have not already spoken to them? Kids usually don't listen any ways. Kids say the most filthiest of words, no one outside the parents want to discipline kids any more. Schools don't do it, activities don't do it, any close adult who would used to correct a child's bad behavior don't do it.

So what this really comes downs to, is that kids now roam free from consequences, free from being corrected when needed. This includes not just racial slurs, but any words that they once were not allowed to say.

Society is crumbling

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pbredd t1_ir0fros wrote

I don’t know but personally I don’t really hide swear words from my kids but try to explain to them that they are not appropriate for kids…. Racial slurs are a different level for me… I go out of my way, every time they hear one, to explain to them the gravity of those words… they don’t have a lot of exposure to POC in this state so I think it is important to educate them as best we can…

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throwawayieee t1_ir0i5tv wrote

Former Nazi extremist here

My parents were both Democrat voting liberals. I was raised in Massachusetts in one of the most liberal districts, one of the first in the country to teach critical race theory

My extremism started as a result of combing several pieces of information together without a valid counter argument. I looked at FBI crime rates by race, thought to myself “why do blacks commit more crimes per capita than whites” and it was all downhill from there.

Once you start looking for extremist communities it’s not hard to find them. You feel included in it like it’s a secret society, like you’re fundamentally alike. Like two humans in a wild jungle.

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pbredd t1_ir0lvqz wrote

So how did you get out of it?

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throwawayieee t1_ir0nu4e wrote

I realized that the Nazi ideology was based on a scapegoat boogie man, and that it holds no statistical grounds in the modern world.

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pbredd t1_ir0o2bf wrote

Well good on you for learning and growing . It’s a hard thing for many, regardless of what the view is, to do.

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throwawayieee t1_ir0o5hx wrote

Something important to add is that a lot of modern white nationalism is a direct response to black nationalism/black supremacy organizations and cultural norms.

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pbredd t1_ir0qdk2 wrote

I guess that depends on what you consider black nationalist/ supremacy groups…. I dont consider groups that protest cops killing blacks like Black Lives Matter a nationalist or supremacy group..: plus the factor of minority status makes black nationalism difficult … I think the white nationalists often twist the message of their “counterpart” in order to rouse the hate …

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throwawayieee t1_ir0wbag wrote

There’s definitely a strawman at play. There are numerous organizations that have made “white supremacy” videos, the most famous one being the woman who said “What exactly are white people better than black people at? Conquering!”

White supremacists treat the entire left wing as if they believe in that, when in reality they don’t.

Even in the Black Lives Matter thing, there’s a range, kind of like antifa. On one end you have the white teenage girls putting BLM in their Instagram bio, and on the other end you have the people burning down cities. In reality a vast majority of people who support BLM fall in between. Again, an example of scapegoating/strawman

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pbredd t1_ir0wncu wrote

Nice use of logical fallacy verbiage! Much appreciated!

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[deleted] OP t1_ir0oewa wrote

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throwawayieee t1_ir19ayx wrote

The best answer that will be Reddit-friendly is that the black people of America are still recovering (economically) from slavery, thus they are statistically poorer, thus they commit more crime per capita.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irin3o2 wrote

We’re two generations on from enforced segregation. We’re still in the throes of voluntary segregation. Black communities are still targeted by policing and law.

Stop with this BS.

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throwawayieee t1_ir1eh4a wrote

In reality the real issue lies in culture. The black culture of America is seemingly one that promotes violence and crime.

Take black music for example. Read the lyrics of a black rap song and see what I mean. Promotes nothing but violence and crime.

Compared to popular white music, they’re completely different

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Some-Pomegranate215 t1_iqyx312 wrote

In my experience the main symptom is dumb republicans/parents

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amwestover t1_iqyz3k8 wrote

Usually dumb redditors

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hardsoft t1_iqywqoa wrote

It's nothing like when I was a kid in the 90s. Bullying in general seems way less pervasive today.

But overall I'd agree racism is increasing. You just had the VP suggesting flood monies should be targeted to communities of color and such. It's blatant racism. Then it gives an excuse to non colored folks to claim they're victims and promote more racism. Racism begets racism. And there is no "good" racism.

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PoeticPen t1_iqyz44e wrote

It is not racist to suggest that help be dispersed to the people who need it most first. Communities of color were impacted more heavily by the floods, so yes those communities should be helped first.

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hardsoft t1_iqz03l9 wrote

You mean low income communities?

What if a red neck mobile home area was wiped out and government leaders spoke about prioritizing white people?

It's racism. Plain and simple.

If you want to talk about geographic areas and such without being a racist, cool. But apologetic excuses for racist behavior just leads to more racism.

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PoeticPen t1_ir0y71a wrote

I mean communities of color. The areas hit hardest by the flooding were part of the original "Red lining" districts, the highly racist practice of denying people of color housing outside of "Designated Areas." Now if you said that it was political pandering I'd be on board. It's gross the way dems pander for the black vote by making specific mention of every time help is headed their way, but I'm not a snowflake getting my panties in a twist because no one on the news is talking about the help "white people" will be getting. Every time any politician speaks about any group of people without mentioning their ethnicity, they are talking about "white people." Getting all pissy because someone didn't specifically mention "you" and "your" ethnicity, is racist, childish and petty. You sound like a toddler screaming "what about me?"

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hardsoft t1_ir11rui wrote

WTF? I'm not calling for politicians to be racist in calling out white people.

I'm against racism across the board.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irhg1id wrote

White people have been prioritized.

You’re really saying racism is worse now because people are suggesting making some amendments for the impacts of racism?

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hardsoft t1_iri61bx wrote

I'm not saying it's worse. You just made that up. I'm saying it's racism. And racism is bad.

You're making an absurd whataboutism to defend racism and then claim it's not racism.

Like maybe we should lynch some white people to make up for our flawed history....

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irif8gk wrote

You said it’s increasing. Would that not be worse?

There is no definition of ‘racism’ this fits.

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hardsoft t1_irigc8n wrote

Racism is increasing. People are actively promoting it more in recent history.

But it's certainly not worse. It's a bunch of smooth brained anti intellectuals trying to prove how woke they are.

Nothing compared to say, slavery, a lot of the Jim Crow era stuff, etc, of our past.

Still certainly not good though

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irigmdq wrote

You’re just a fragile (and racist) white person who thinks that actual systematic racism against Black people is not racism but amendment for it is.

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hardsoft t1_irigu31 wrote

Of course systemic racism against black people is racism.

We're different in that I don't think that justifies racism against white people.

I'm opposed to all racism. You selectively support it

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irih055 wrote

It’s not racism against white people to make some amendment for racism against Black people.

You support the perpetuation of racism against Black people.

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hardsoft t1_irihsvf wrote

Yes it is.

Especially in such a non nonsensical manner.

Why does a low income trailer park white person in Florida have responsibility for historic systemic racism against colored people?

From a CRT perspective of power and related systemic dynamics, lower class whites living in trailer parks have more in relation with colored folks than other middle class white folks.

You just want to punish them to assuage your guilt or something.

Sorry man, but racism is bad.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irihxl7 wrote

No. I think there should be amendment for harm done. It’s not possibly racist to do that.

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hardsoft t1_irii7iz wrote

It's not just possible. It is.

But again, explain how punishing poor white people makes up for historic racism?

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_iriidgl wrote

It’s not punishment to poor white people for there to be amendment for racism. This is the problem you have: you think that amendment for the harm done is mean to white people.

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hardsoft t1_iriitb9 wrote

Amendment for harm done by a hurricane?

We're back to the racist hurricane...

And upon continued searching I've yet to find a single definition of racism that says "except against white people"

So you're anti science and anti language.

The things a racist will do to justify their racism...

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irij0i8 wrote

No. The harm done by your racism.

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hardsoft t1_irij7g1 wrote

I'm opposed to racism across the board.

You're promoting it. You're so edgy.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irijfbn wrote

No. You are racist.

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hardsoft t1_irik07e wrote

Your actual argument is that some poor people in Florida need to be held responsible for harm done by me because the pigment of their skin is similar. That's clearly racist.

Meanwhile, you can't provide a single example of my supposed racism.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irik26d wrote

No. My actual argument is that amendment for racism is not racism.

You want to perpetuate racism.

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hardsoft t1_irik9rn wrote

We're talking about hurricane relief. The hurricane wasn't racist. The lower income white folks in Florida trailer parks aren't responsible.

So that doesn't make any logical sense. You're just being racist.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irikc5f wrote

We’re talking about amendment for racism. You think it’s racist to make amendment for racism.

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hardsoft t1_irikw6q wrote

If that involves more racism or rights violations against innocent individuals, yes.

You don't get to lynch a newborn white baby and simply dismiss it as "amendment for racism".

That's not a magical phrase that justifies racism or distortion of basic logic and language. Holding someone guilty of something simply because of the color of their skin is racist.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_iriky2a wrote

It isn’t racism to make amendment for racism.

No one is being held guilty of anything.

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hardsoft t1_irilhh5 wrote

So killing a white baby is ok if it's "atonement for racism"?

The guilt of the party for whatever you're atoning for is irrelevant?

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irilmm0 wrote

Why would killing a white baby be an amendment for racism? You’re pretty sick.

Edit: oh, I see. You’re talking about atonement. I don’t care so much about that. But you’re still kind of sick.

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hardsoft t1_irilsr2 wrote

Right

And you agree that prioritizing hurricane relief response for white people would be racist?

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irilvbd wrote

Of course. That would be doubling down on racism, not amending it.

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hardsoft t1_irim8q1 wrote

And you agree low income white people in Florida trailer parks aren't responsible for a racist hurricane?

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irimnsh wrote

Of course. But that’s irrelevant.

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hardsoft t1_irinas9 wrote

So you agree prioritizing hurricane relief response based on skin color is racist, unless it's to atone for prior racism.

And that atonement against innocent individuals is wrong.

And that white trailer park individuals in Florida are not responsible for the hurricane.

See the trap you painted yourself into?

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irinon8 wrote

No. It’s amendment for racism.

That you don’t understand the difference between ‘atonement’ and ‘amendment’ is a problem and probably one of the sources of your active racism.

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hardsoft t1_irinx58 wrote

Haha. Back to your selectively magical justification phrase.

Ok.

Your choice to practice cognitive dissonance.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irhe3mv wrote

Mentioning race is not racism.

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hardsoft t1_irhffey wrote

I'm pretty sure saying you going to prioritize support based on race is racism.

"Where going to prioritize support of white communities"

Yep. Racism.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irhfht5 wrote

It’s not racism to prioritize people who have been actively deprioritized because of their race. How would that be racism?

I mean, prioritizing white communities is the country’s status quo.

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hardsoft t1_irhfya6 wrote

Actively deprioritized?

You're just making up BS. A hurricane is a weather event that has no concern for human skin color. Response should therefore be to prioritize those effected by the hurricane, independent of their skin color.

Unless you're racist. But that's the world we live in now. You have a group of people who think it's cool to be racist to make up for past racism or something.

Racism begets racism. It's always bad.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irhg50k wrote

Hi? This is the US.

WTF have you been?

Edit: It’s not racist to prioritize those who have been deprioritized. So your “racism begets racism” is irrelevant and nonsense.

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hardsoft t1_iri69q7 wrote

Yeah sorry. Reverse is racism.

Not being racist is prioritizing relief based on impact from the hurricane. Which scientifically speaking is totally unrelated to skin color.

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LetMeSleepNoEleven t1_irif5d9 wrote

It’s not racism at all. That’s absurd. There is no possible definition of racism that this fits.

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hardsoft t1_irig3uk wrote

Uh...

> discrimination on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group

Yep. It fits the very basic definition of racism.

Unless you're taking an anti science position that the hurricane is racist or something...

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fearlessjf t1_iqzxtp7 wrote

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hardsoft t1_ir0pjyz wrote

I agree, but was quoting the VP. So she was being offensive.

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seanwalter123 t1_iqyk180 wrote

I would’ve never guessed when race is pushed into every aspect of your life you become an antagonist to whatever the narrative is…

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hemlockstockandbarel t1_iqyp54t wrote

What are you talking about?

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1carus_x t1_iqyuylj wrote

This is literally that "I'm becoming a Nazi bc YOURE making me one, I'm just forced to do this" mene

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seanwalter123 t1_iqyxl0r wrote

Idk what that means and I’ve never seen a meme anything close to what you’re saying….

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seanwalter123 t1_iqyxiwn wrote

How many kids vape because they’re told not to do it? When race becomes the center of attention and is forced down your throat being racist becomes edgy. if they would pull back on the bs I bet you this would all go away.

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hemlockstockandbarel t1_iqyxy4b wrote

I don't actually think most kids who start vaping do it out of spite, or whatever. They do it because it seems cool, or because their friends do it.

And like, what, if society stopped talking about racism, racism would go away? That's not how anything works, come on.

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