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hardsoft t1_ir9zg11 wrote

Reply to comment by nhbruh in The N.H. surgeon who had the worst record for malpractice death settlements by ChristopherDuntsch

Imagine if the government proposed a public tracking database for employee disciplinary action for every citizen?

Maybe we should just go full China and have a social credit score for everyone and encourage reporting others...

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HPenguinB t1_iraceh3 wrote

Wait, you think tracking a doctor's fuck ups is the same as china's social credit scores? Please tell me you are just trying to be silly.

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hardsoft t1_irappuc wrote

I'm saying why stop at doctor's. Why do you deserve and right to privacy. Let's have the government track everyone.

Or maybe the thought experiment is revealing it's a problem...

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HPenguinB t1_irb0swx wrote

I'm saying that's stupid. "Yelp exists, therefore all humans are government drones with microchips." "Car registration exist, therefore all children are in pizza hut basements for lizard people to eat."

It's not a thought experiment. It's libertarian nonsense. Like, I can't even imagine *you* take this seriously, because no one is that dumb.

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hardsoft t1_irbbi2t wrote

Exactly. The government should track and make publicly available lifetime employee disciplinary action for everybody.

You agree or you hate fire departments.

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HPenguinB t1_irc0rln wrote

>Exactly.

So you agree your argument is stupid? Bold move, Cotton. Let's see if this pays off.

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hardsoft t1_irc2jyf wrote

I'm not actually arguing we should have government track and make publicly available employer disciplinary actions for some people (just not me).

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nhbruh t1_ira0f3s wrote

You okay? Last we saw, you dove off the deep end and haven’t come up for air.

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hardsoft t1_irapbz9 wrote

Asks the person promoting government surveillance and reporting of workplace discipline on a public forum...

First they came for the doctors, and I didn't speak out because I'm not a doctor.

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nhbruh t1_irarjns wrote

This is an impressive level of cognitive dissonance and I applaud you for the work it took achieve it.

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hardsoft t1_irars2m wrote

Such as?

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nhbruh t1_irasdur wrote

Others have already called out the hysteria that is your other comments, no need for me to jump on that wagon now.

Pro tip: heavy duty aluminum foil is much more effective against those pesky gov’t brain reading space lasers than the regular stuff. Don’t even get me started on the store brands!

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hardsoft t1_irasrj2 wrote

So no examples of cognitive dissonance. Thanks.

Pro tip, when insulting others, try being accurate.

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Moon_King_ t1_irabeoc wrote

Well i dont have to worry about going into burger king for my routine or emergency number 5 with a medium coke and potentially having the burger maker kill me. If that sounds ridiculous its because it is and so are you.

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hardsoft t1_iraphos wrote

Yeah yeah. Privacy is important for you because you're not as important as a doctor or something.

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Moon_King_ t1_iraqf0l wrote

Ya because privacy shoould give a pass when murdering people because of incompetence.

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hardsoft t1_iraqpqr wrote

How did they write this article then?

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Moon_King_ t1_irarlmb wrote

With a computer? How the fuck would i know. Ask the author.

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hardsoft t1_iras72r wrote

Right. So we need the government to collect and post citizen's legal history on a site for people sophisticated to access but not sophisticated enough to use Google and search for themselves?

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Moon_King_ t1_iratu65 wrote

The government already collects your data. Surprise!

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hardsoft t1_irau1yg wrote

So you agree, why not more? And accessible by everyone.

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Moon_King_ t1_iravuh6 wrote

Believe it or not most information vollectes by the government is public information. Must be scary at night when everything is the boogie man.

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hardsoft t1_irbzwtt wrote

So why not more!? Who cares unless you have something to hide /s

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WhoWhatWhereWhenHowY t1_ira008z wrote

A bit over the top but a valid point.

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Mynewadventures t1_ira6kf7 wrote

I agree. It sounds hyperbolic, but there is such a loooooong history of policies and laws that are created in a knee jerk way that has terrible consequences a few decades down the road.

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ANewMachine615 t1_ira8yqj wrote

So how is a consumer supposed to make an informed choice about a health care provider, if arguably the most critical information - their rate of legally culpable fuckups - is hidden from them? Insurers, hospitals, doctors, etc. All have incentives to hide this. Only wronged patients, who lack power and coordination, have an incentive here - and one of the requirements for most settlements is confidentiality.

Does MA have a social credit system? Are they China? And yet they make this info public.

What an absurd concern.

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hardsoft t1_iraor1o wrote

The info is available (hence the article). Just not consolidated on a government site. Not to mention online reviews and such.

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vexingsilence t1_iraoncr wrote

This is a problem with settlements in general. There's often a public interest in the matter but the public is left in the dark. It can be medical, it can be police misconduct, it can be a homebuilder, anything. There can be instances where your town pays out a settlement which comes out of your property tax, but you don't even get to know the terms of the settlement. It's absurd.

Medical is worse in that doctors can't fix everything. Just because there was a negative outcome, doesn't mean there was malpractice involved. But people get lawyers involved and off it goes. The defendants may settle just to avoid the cost of dragging it through the courts. That doesn't mean they did anything wrong, it just means at minimum, it was more cost effective to do a payout than it was to put up a defense.

The uglier side of this is that if you're a patient needing a procedure that has a significant failure rate, even if you find the doctors and facility that has the best outcomes, they may decline to do the procedure because of the risk of litigation if it does go wrong. Been there, done that, not a good time.

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Mynewadventures t1_ira96mk wrote

I wasn't saying a solution isn't needed, and my concern is far from absurd.

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ANewMachine615 t1_iradocs wrote

A licensed professional whose job frequently involves cutting people open having some disclosure responsibilities when they screw up and harm others in legally liable ways, is nowhere near the slippery slope you want it to be.

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HPenguinB t1_iraco7k wrote

It really is absurd. I don't even care about this conversation, and suddenly "Yelp reviews leads to complete fascism," is hella absurd.

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