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Submitted by [deleted] t3_yg6df1 in newhampshire
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I completely get this. He’s a pompous windbag that believes he is a celebrity and deserves everything for nothing as somehow you will benefit just from doing work for him. He and his wife have way too high an opinion of themselves
> A month later my boss got a call to give a estimate for a bathroom remodel, went to this mansion and it was the main guy, wanted it for Pennies,
Sounds like any mansion owner. Or anyone else for that matter. Name a single person that doesn't want to pay the absolute lowest amount possible when shopping?
Smart people who don’t mind paying for quality work. Trying to get something as cheap as possible is a race to the bottom.
“The bitterness of poor quality last longer than the sweetness of low cost. “. Ben Franklin
Airlines.
I went to high school with one of them total douche. Personally I think the "good" they do for people is exploitative. Who wants a camera on them during what arguably could be one of the lowest points in their lives?
Is what they’re doing truly altruistic when they make their money publicizing their altruism?
Exactly!!! If everyone knew ALL the family details.. poor boy makes celebrity status and pumping his fan base to keep HIS dream alive…
Oh stories please
It feels really fake to me and everything they do is for attention. I’m sure they’ve helped people but they don’t seem the type do it without a camera on them. Really cringe and over the top. Just my opinion.
I’ve seen people with chaos and kindness tattoos and bumper stickers. So I feel like they have a following.
Even if they are well intentioned, they film all their kind deeds. To me, filming it takes away the sincerity and makes it feel exploitative. If someone did something nice for me while I was down in the dumps, I’d appreciate it. But then if they filmed me and put it on tv, I’d personally feel humiliated.
They’re basically the local cable version of those people who film themselves giving homeless people money or food. Frankly, if I was homeless, I wouldn’t want a camera shoved in my face to “get my reaction,” either. I’d take the money, but I’d feel exploited in that it’s very reasonable to assume they wouldn’t have done it if there was nothing in it for them.
They commented their own Facebook video of them giving $1000 to a homeless man. They said - “We choose to share some of the acts of kindness that we do not to be “showy” or to even get a “like”. We share this side because we hope that it inspires you to show more love, empathy, and kindness towards the world. It brings us joy that we can use our platform to spread love. The world needs more of it, and we hope that by you taking the time to watch this, you go out and shine your light on the world. ❤️”
It’s nice to show their positive deeds, but I agree that it seems exploitative. For the homeless man, he might now become a target for aggression or theft now that he has $1000. Do these people consent to being shown as vulnerable in the videos?
I’m 100% for giving help to those in need and donating to charitable organizations….but I don’t know enough about them to say if their “positivity influencing” and “charity merchandising” is ethically right?
Attention whores.
They kind of take advantage of people without the ability to defend themselves.
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Hey mine too!
It would be so easy for me to sit here and criticize these guys and get upvotes . But, I think they do good things for people - I can’t say that about most celebrities. And, in this day and age of constant negativity, I appreciate their positivity….we need more of that for sure.
Exploiting poor and disabled people to promote your brand? Nahh, not cringey at all. What's next ? A school for kids that can't read good? A school for ants?!?!
They want to do other stuff good too!
I don't buy their schtick for a second.
I have no idea what chaos and kindness is but I can tell you any car that has one of their stickers is Gona be a really shitty suv with a overwheight cigarette lady driving it aggressively
Group of kids from Goffstown High School started a group called Recycled Percussion and were successful on one the big shows, America’s Got Talent, I think.
Anyway a couple of them started this Chaos and Kindness tv show thing that does charitable type stuff.
Is that who picks you up in car rider line?
I also have no idea what that is, but that’s who I blow by every morning on my way to make fat stacks as an electrician
😂
Tread lightly. The "pitbull mom" posse loves these guys.
Whats a pitbull mom?
In pajamas at Walmart. Buys smokes at Cumbys.
Competitive eating aspirations.
Well, I knew it couldn't be good... I rescued a pitbull recently... its not an automatic that I need to start smoking, wearing pj's at stores and enter Nathan's hot dog eating contest, right? But, i know the kind of person you mean... and sadly, you're not truly wrong. I know fans of C&K that fit that description
I work with adults who have disabilities at a non profit in NH and I don’t know, personally, much about them (the band, the store, etc.) but I know that my clients absolutely adore Chaos and Kindness and have been positively impacted by it as it advocates for people like them. It’s not my place to judge poorly as they are helping those with disabilities (whether that is advocacy, inclusions, raising awareness/money, etc.)
It’s nice to see they are giving space to people who typically may not have it.
Yes! A lot of it seems like disability theater to me. I'm sure they mean well, but it comes off weird to me and I can't watch it.
Yah, this. I did watch one whole episode where they participated in an Ironman competition w/ zero training, that was somewhat amusing. But when they start pulling disabled and homeless people into their antics...cringe.
None of you sat in your elementary school gymnasium to watched these guys play drums on garbage cans, and it shows
I did. Too often.
Yeeeeessss! Before I say anything I’ll say that I recognize the good they’ve done/do and helping people and lifting them up is always good.
Now, that said… the whole tone of the show seems super manufactured and fake. Their energy is off putting in the sense that it feel disingenuous, which then makes it worse when they’re interacting with people with developmental disabilities, and makes it feel like they’re using them as props so they can get a public pat on the back. That’s harsh and probably not entirely fair, but there you have it.
Public pat on the back = $$
100%
I cannot get into them. The energy of that one dude (Justin?) screams anxiety at me. They do seem very kind but they drain my energy…
I've only met them once, but they were incredibly nice. We met them backstage at their venue before one of their concerts and they were just so happy and filled with this almost contagious positive energy. They talked to my kids and encouraged them to practice and work hard when they said they wanted to start their own band.
Honestly, I don't see how what they do is any different than any other celebrity behaves? A-list celebrities make commercials for TV begging you to donate to charity. In the last year and a half alone, I've seen the guys of RP give away over $30,000 to their fans in the form of games/contests/random drawing give-aways.
Yes they are very annoying
Yep, I say this all the time! Do they do nice things? Sure. But to me it feels like they do them mostly just so they can gloat about doing them. Very self-important.
May very well be true. But if people in need get help so they can gloat about how good they are, I doubt it matters much to those kids that may have had lesser holidays.
I've never heard of Chaos and Kindness until now. I saw Recycled Percussion back in high school. Thought it was cool, thought they were hot. A girl from my school with some chronic conditions ended up befriending them. The show does sound cringe. My biggest issue is their hair. Like whoa.
Edited to add: I graduated over 15 years ago. They had the same hair back then. I, however, do not.
My sister-in-law entered one of their “fitness competitions” they held in Laconia a few years back. Not only did one of them enter the competition but they won first place, which was supposed to yield money for charity. I don’t know if they ended up donating or not, but I do know my SIL felt cheated out of money for her charity. They finished 2nd.
If you claim you feel cheated when you lose a competition because of who else is in the competition, you shouldn't be competing. There is always the possibility you will lose in any competition. If a regular celebrity set up that kind of competition and just sat back, relaxed and watched the average joe earn money for charity in need, you wouldn't bat an eye, but because this guy got off his ass and joined in the competition, somehow he's a bad guy?
Yes, but you also shouldn't compete in your own competition.
I could see that being the argument if the competition resulted in a prize for the winner to keep for themselves and he entered and won, so he got to keep his money for himself. But that wasn't the case. People were competing to have money donated to a charity. And his sister feels cheated because a charity in need got a donation and it wasn't her chosen charity? That's a little narcissitic.
I think it’s an interesting dilemma.. on one hand, if you lose a completion no excuses.. on the other I think an argument can be made for the organizer having a mental edge being the other contestants. He will have had a full understanding or exactly how the day will play out.
My issue would be with any organizers participating in any event in any sport. their full focus should be on running/improving the event and guest experiences. If the goal is to raise money for charity the organizer should be totally focused and getting people back next time, investing more, inviting more friends.
Exactly. I don’t have any evidence to say something nefarious was at play, but it seemed off to me.
You can put your mind to rest that there is nothing nefarious about just not being good enough.
Yeah my minds been at rest dude. You might take a hike tho.
Who?
Apparently we’re the only two in NH to have no idea who these people are lol
Three, but I’m old
Four, I’m old too
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I had no idea on what this was an after some independent research these guys look like DOUCHES. Also the graphic design on their merch is some of the worst shit I’ve ever seen. Some real vomit inducing shit right there.
The market demographic is elementary and middle schoolers, and the developmentally disabled (sorry if I seem to be repeating myself). As such the big truck/crappy graphics/Nick-After-School SlimeTime™️ cringe is allegedly effective at reaching disaffected apathetic youth. Or so I’m told: “You should see how enthusiastic our xx graders are!”
Yeah, they ditch class for a day, while these guys make bank.
“They’re a non-profit!” So was The Clinton Foundation. Bill and Hill didn’t miss too many meals while living in ghetto Chappaqua NY.
I have absolutely no clue what this topic is about
Does anyone know what percentage or profit from their merch sales goes to “grassroots organizations who are working in mental health services & suicide prevention” ?
https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/464626415
Unrated by Charity Navigator. You might be able to find their 990s though.
Yeah, and what have they even done for Tzeentch recently?
Find some wicked good spells
I think of it like a cult. (Tattoos, really?!?!)
yes. they take advantage of developmentally disabled kids.
real fuckin' weird.
totally agree. nothing about them seems genuine and just seeing people in their merchandise makes me recoil
It's quite disheartening to see so many people thinking poorly of these guys when they admittedly know so little about them. Why not educate yourselves before casting judgement? For your information, since May they have very proudly featured designs on their merchandise that is done by people with a variety of disabilities. Henry Salas for example is completely paralyzed from the neck down, yet he paints and draws amazing designs by holding a pen in his mouth. A percentage of sales for his shirts goes directly back to him. They didn't buy the design from him to turn around and mass produce it to make a profit. Also, all of their shirts now utilize 5 colors. Those 5 colors represent the 5 people on average (5.45) that die from suicide every minute of the day in this country.
I have seen the happiness these guys bring to people firsthand. Last Christmas, they had a toy drive where they collected over 60,000 toys to give to any family that showed up at their venue. For free! And more than a few times, Justin has spent his own money to go out and buy toys or donate clothes to local kids he passes on the street. And the cash he gives out is out of his own pocket. Money he has earned. This isn't to get a pat on the back. He hates that actually. He does it to hopefully inspire others to do something similar. Because the feeling from helping others vs. Tearing them down is it's own reward. That's why I proudly volunteer to help out.
As for Jimmy and Davin, they are loved more than I can describe to you. They are not exploited or thought less of because of who they are. Because their disabilities are not looked at as disabilities. They are fully capable human beings. They are who they are and are perfect in their own way.
Ryan and Davin have known each other since grade school, haven't they? Like they were childhood friends and now that Ryan has money and is in a position to do something, has selflessly helped someone who otherwise would be forgotten by the rest of the world to achieve his own goals and dreams.
I don't know how long they have known each other but they do seem close. I think it's amazing how they include Davin and Jimmy in their adventures.
Cuz they are!
I not impressed with these b celebrities trying to keep their dream alive by selling merch, beverages, and re-heated leftover variety show acts.
They seem cool to me, and huge supporters of New Hampshire, and our most vulnerable community members, friends and family.
What's cringy about them, exactly?
They have huge stores set up at all the fairs to collect money lmao
Their memorial for the people killed in that motorcycle crash looked like absolute garbage. And the hair, god. The hair is pretty stupid, dude you’re not in your 20’s anymore, give up the hair gel.
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Manchvegas47 t1_iu7g33n wrote
100% Rt. My wife spent $60 for 2 tickets for us to go, we lasted 20 mins, watching full grown men do stupid shit in diapers, and they make bank. A month later my boss got a call to give a estimate for a bathroom remodel, went to this mansion and it was the main guy, wanted it for Pennies, do u know who I am he responded, I do charity work everywhere, out of the spot light, biggest A hole I’ve meant. He does good for a lot of people but the other side not so good. Fake? Yes.