How do they call winners when 15% of votes are in? Explain like I’m 5Submitted by heelllooooooo t3_yq5mhy in newhampshire
CrotchetAndVomit t1_ivngt3b wrote
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Give 4 examples of "how fucked" it is with sources please.
_Fried_Ice t1_ivnirbw wrote
funniest comment I have seen in 2 years.
EDIT: Thanks for the down vote, it really does reinforce the comment above, that "Yall have the memory of a fruit fly". Now I can definitely provide some links but that would be futile, because you will say my sources are not good.
4 things that demonstrate how fucked it has been, but I am sure some mental gymnastics will be played to dismiss these facts:
- Inflation, all time high of 40 years
- Withdrawal from Afghanistan (not the withdrawal itself, but how it was done was a complete disaster and utter disgusting failure)
- Complete and utter mishandling of the covid-19 pandemic
- Huge increase in crime specifically after Biden was elected, mostly in Blue states
- And an extra one just cause, the border has been and still til today is in shambles
los-gokillas t1_ivo1y7w wrote
Do you mean the withdrawal from Afghanistan? Not Iraq? Handling of COVID-19? Trump was in charge of that through the entire first year. Almost all lockdowns and stimulus happened under trump. The border isn't in shambles it's just a republican talking point because they're scared that white people are having less babies.
Inflation and the economy overall has nothing to do with either administration and everything to do with capitalism. There is always a boom and bust cycle in capitalism. Covid allowed corporations to line the shit out of their pockets, through the government, and because of that things are getting very very tight for the working class. Soon we'll have a huge crash which will allow the capitalists to buy up our assets like it's a fire sale. This is how capitalism has always worked
_Fried_Ice t1_ivo4xj2 wrote
Yes I meant Afghanistan, I was reading about Iraq at the time of writing the post, honest mistake.
>Almost all lockdowns and stimulus happened under trump.
Who said I agree with this? I don't agree of much of the handling of covid of the trump administration either, but that is not the only mishandling of the pandemic, most of the pandemic has been under Biden thus far. Trump never supported lockdowns either, so even IF that statement is true what was essentially done is trump left it to the states to decide, and did not nationally recommend them. Nor did he push for private companies to enforce vaccine rules even though he is pro vaccine.
I don't agree with your capitalism statement, lets just leave it at that.
>The border isn't in shambles
This is a false statement, you can look it up
los-gokillas t1_ivo7md7 wrote
You don't agree with the boom and bust cycle of capitalism? It's indisputable. That's why there's a crash roughly every ten years. It has to happen for capitalism to continue to function. That's not a politically motivated observation at all just the simple truth. As you would say, you can look it up
Edit From investopedia, "The boom and bust cycle is a process of economic expansion and contraction that occurs repeatedly. The boom and bust cycle is a key characteristic of capitalist economies and is sometimes synonymous with the business cycle.
During the boom the economy grows, jobs are plentiful and the market brings high returns to investors. In the subsequent bust the economy shrinks, people lose their jobs and investors lose money. Boom-bust cycles last for varying lengths of time; they also vary in severity."
Taladanarian27 t1_ivo1toe wrote
“I could provide sources, but I think you’re not gonna like them. Here’s my argument to convince you”
That’s basically what you said. As a scientist, I know if you can’t provide data to back up your claims no one will take you seriously. So when being directly asked for sources, and you dismiss the idea of providing sources, it practically invalidates anything you say.
I see your points listed. But I too would like to see sources. I want to be convinced, want to learn, want to evolve knowledge. That’s human nature (our desire as a race to innovate). So these bullet points cant really prove/disprove anything because you refuse to provide citations.
If you want people to take you seriously, I recommend being capable of backing up the words you say. If you say you CAN, then DO it. You don’t see me claiming to discover a new element and then being like “I could show you my results but you’d just be too shocked”. Nah. People wanna see. Wouldn’t you want others to see if your sources are true and legit?
_Fried_Ice t1_ivo3u4k wrote
I completely understand your point here so here are some sources, even though I don't completely agree with you statement.
We can leave the mishandling of covid-19 out of this as it can be seen as an opinion:
Afghanistan withdrawal failure: https://www.npr.org/2022/08/15/1117037318/for-biden-the-chaotic-withdrawal-from-kabul-was-a-turning-point-in-his-presidenc
https://www.vox.com/world/2022/8/15/23300236/no-one-held-accountable-catastrophic-afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-white-house
Inflation rates:
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi#:~:text=Inflation%20Rate%20in%20the%20United,percent%20in%20June%20of%201921.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/u-s-inflation-at-9-1-percent-a-record-high
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3697972-how-responsible-is-biden-for-high-inflation/
Rise in crime:
https://www.bbc.com/news/57581270
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/crime-is-top-concern-many-americans-midterm-vote-how-bad-is-it-2022-11-01/
Border crisis:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61989673
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57408094
MemeAddict96 t1_ivo57ne wrote
Your source on crime says crime rose during 2020 in both red and blue states. I thought Trump was president in 2020? It actually says there’s been a drop in violent crime. And it also says that public policy has little effect on crime rates.
I’m confused why you would post a source that would prove you wrong. Unless you don’t actually read things and just parrot the standard GOP talking points.
lizyouwerebeer t1_ivpdpy6 wrote
"The problem with all of these conservative critiques is that crime went up everywhere," said Thomas Abt, who worked for the Justice Department during the Obama administration and now chairs the violent crime working group at the Council on Criminal Justice.
It went up in red states, it went up in blue states, it went up in cities controlled by Republican mayors and cities controlled by Democratic mayors. It went up in cities, also in the suburbs, also in rural areas."
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I don't know how that proves dems are behind the increase of crime.
Taladanarian27 t1_ivo3vzt wrote
Thank you very much
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