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kmkmrod t1_ixnygli wrote

“I hate rich person for hoarding money!”
Donates money
“I hate rich person for giving away money!”

You fucking people are unreal.

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smartest_kobold t1_ixofas2 wrote

He's not giving away enough to risk his unimaginably vast fortune.

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Sylvio_ t1_ixopkyh wrote

I donate money. I don’t donate enough to risk my current living situation. Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

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smartest_kobold t1_ixpqjg5 wrote

At some point it's not about "living situation", it's about wealth as power. You're not living any more comfortably on $100 billion than you would on $1 billion.

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UnfairAd7220 t1_ixosd6d wrote

Their hatred keeps them warm at night.

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sje46 t1_ixp3lx7 wrote

It's not hatred; the existence of a billionaire class is just inherently incompatible with my political ideology. unlike most socialists on this matter I try not to be overly simplistic...I recognize that people are more complicated than solely good or solely evil (although obviously people like Hitler or serial killers have so much evil that it's counterproductive to talk about what little "good" they have). I recognize that someone like Bill Gates is probably a kind person interpersonally and has done a lot of charity work. But as CEO of microsoft he still did a lot of damage to the world especially with his anti-competitive behavior and anti-open source bullshit. Hell, George Washington was a pretty decent guy in lots of ways...was a great general, had a strong sense of virtue while in office. But he literally owned slaves. Was the norm at the time. Never heard any rumors of him raping them. But nevertheless, his wealth came at least in part from literally owning human beings.

If I believe that capitalism is about taking the value of someone's labor away from the laborer, and that capitalism results in private property^1 owners simply using their capital to accrue more capital at the expense of the general population as a whole, then anyone who owns a business is inherently exploiting their workers. Even if they're a very nice person who goes to church, gives to charity, pays better and is kinder to their employees than the norm. To get to billions of dollars, you'd have to do a lot of worker exploitation--no two ways around it. And we know that Jeff Bezos is below the norm for private property owners. The conditions for Amazon pickers are horrendous, and his drivers have to piss in bottles, and he's a complete asshole to his employees interpersonally.

The fact that he gives to charity could be to alleviate guilt, could be to get clout, could be to improve his brand, could be because he feels bad and just wants to feel better about himself. And sure, a world where Jeff Bezos gave moneyy to a soup kitchen is better than a world where he didn't give money to a soup kitchen. But since he still profits off the exploitation of workers, he's still not really, like, a good guy. He's still contributing more to the world being shitty than the world being better. What he could have done is instead of resignng as CEO last year was to make Amazon a worker's co-op. But instead he just union-busted and treated his employees like trash, while accumulating billions for himself.

But yeah I'm a socialist, so I'm sure it's just a vapid hatred of rich people without any real thought behind it. It's just that an act like this is sorta like seeing a story of a serial rapist donating money to a woman's shelter.

^1 in academic socialism, "private property" refers to things like factories, railroads, mines, apartment complexes, etc, not personal possessions or even your own private home.

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UnfairAd7220 t1_ixxnung wrote

In your long winded and dislocutive way, you're trying to defend your hate by citing marxism as a rational choice.

Its not. Not is your hatred.

Figure out that next better mousetrap, become a billionaire or run your kolkhoz the way you want.

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sje46 t1_ixxpcfd wrote

Yes I do believe marxism is a rational choice

I don't hate billionaires. That was part of my long-winded comment. That was the point of it.

Good neologism with "dislocutive" btw, I like that word.

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warren_stupidity t1_ixo7rxr wrote

As noted, hiding your loot from the taxman and treating your workers like shit are not negated by your vanity foundation’s donations.

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UnfairAd7220 t1_ixosj2j wrote

Name checks out.

How is he 'hiding his money?' If you know, turn him in. IRS will give you 40% of their take.

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Peeeculiar t1_ixo5c8e wrote

Seriously. No good deed goes unpunished.

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Wiked_Pissah t1_ixo5sj7 wrote

I think it's the hidden motives to his donation that is what they are disturbed about.

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golfgrandslam t1_ixonyic wrote

Who gives a shit what the motives are.

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UnfairAd7220 t1_ixoskyg wrote

Whiny democrats do...

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golfgrandslam t1_ixou9sm wrote

While that might be true, it's unhealthy to interpret everything through the lens of partisan politics.

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Wiked_Pissah t1_ixr2udt wrote

I will agree with you there. But do you honestly think Bezos did this out of the kindness and generosity of his heart? If you do, tell that to his employees.

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golfgrandslam t1_ixus9i8 wrote

I don't give a shit why he did it. The Nashua soup kitchen should only get the money if his motives are pure? I don't get this obsession reddit has with denouncing every rich person giving to charity. It's exactly what we want them to do.

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Wiked_Pissah t1_ixvqvr9 wrote

Hey that's great. You don't give a shit. But I would prefer to see those people in the soup kitchen get taken care of for a little more than 1 meal. Greedy pieces of shit like Bezos are only doing what they are doing so they can screw the poor more in the long run. But hey, you don't give a shit. 👍👍

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