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OldestPresidentEver t1_ivp8036 wrote

So people were behind him because he believed in election fraud, but then he changed his position and those people

A) voted against him?

B) didn't vote at all?

This makes no fucking sense. This guy is such a grifter.

Can anyone who changed position because he stopped promoting nonsense please explain how you voted and why? I'm genuinely curious if there's even a single person who falls in this camp.

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lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpa26u wrote

I wonder if nov 8th 2022 will be regarded as the election where trumpism began it's long over due decline. Trump backed candidates took a real thrashing last night and it would seem the Dems strategy of financing maga candidates paid off in spades.

The Republicans only used trump because they believed it would help them get elected. If the numbers show that being associated with trump is a negative then trump is going to lose any hope of a 2024 run.

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Racer_Bait t1_ivpbiq2 wrote

I’m guessing Buldoc kept virtually all his primary voters. However, he didn’t gain all the people who voted against him in the primary. He flip flopped to try to win them in the general. So it’s those voters who decided not to vote/not to vote for him.

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asphynctersayswhat t1_ivp9pfc wrote

No, trump endorsed him a couple weeks ago and the GOP thought Hassan was a guaranteed loss. They wer3 caught off guard and the orange baby needed to control the narrative and 5his was the best he could muster. Based on the house races, NH seems to have voted blue at the federal level all around so it’s not BolduQ so much as the maga candidates aren’t as popular as they think.

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wegandi t1_ivpdbf4 wrote

Pat Buchaninism plays well in the south, not in NH. Anyone with two brain cells understands this. I still cant believe the GOP want anything to do with loser narcissist extradonaire. The bright side is these candidates won their primaries with barely mid 30s votes so hopefully people will repudiate them from now on. That part of the party is not the majority. As a Republican I cant wait til they become irrelevant.

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lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpfcp2 wrote

As a Democrat I can't wait until the GOP kicks all these degenerates out and replaces them with sensible people. Because then the Democrats will have to actually try again and America as a whole will benefit.

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Tullyswimmer t1_ivprqqo wrote

Start with having your party stop propping them up during the primaries just so they have an easier path in the general elections.

https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/democrats-spend-53m-to-boost-far-right-gop-candidates/

A lot of these degenerates wouldn't have made it out of the primaries if it weren't for that Democrat money pushing them there. But they're too convenient for Democrats (for the very reason that this post highlights) so they're going to keep trying to make Trumpism happen.

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lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpsbdf wrote

I get the argument, but you do know Democrats aren't the ones who voted for him right? If the GOP primary voter base had informed voters then they would've shunned bolduc as the obvious trap card that he was.

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Tullyswimmer t1_ivpthiu wrote

"If the GOP primary base had informed voters"

If the Democrats hadn't spend millions of dollars in an effort to deliberately misinform voters, you mean?

I'm sick of this gaslighting. The Democrats knew exactly what they were doing. And they knew that they could always shift the blame onto the "dumb republican voters". And they knew that their voters would eat it up and cheer it on, because LUL DUMB REPUBLICANS AMIRITE.

It's bullshit. It's legal, but it's bullshit. If you can't convince people to win on policy, then change your policy. Don't try to influence the elections so you can "win" purely by having a less shitty candidate.

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lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpvydv wrote

The democratic strategy to fund maga candidates is a lot like Murphy's military law:

If a plan is stupid but works it isn't stupid.

If you don't like the fact that these candidates appeal to the lowest common denominator then what are you doing supporting a party that allowed them to gain credit in the first place?

I'm not calling Republicans dumb at all but we all know that the radicalized conspiracy riddled goons lean hard right. Most Republicans in NH are socially liberal but fiscally conservative and don't buy into this bullshit. That's why sunnunu got 320,000+ votes but bolduc got 70,000 less meaning a lot of conservative voters voted for Hassan instead.

The Dems caught the GOP flat footed this time because the GOP wasn't able to counter the strategy because there were no radical Democrats running to fund.

The silver lining here for the GOP is that they are unlikely to humor jerkoffs like bolduc in 2024. Meaning that America may be turning a corner when it comes to hyper controversial candidates running for office.

The simple truth is that there would've been no strategy to use if the GOP ditched their harmful dead weight. Defeat is the greatest teacher and they are unlikely to repeat a mistake twice in a row.

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Tullyswimmer t1_ivpwip8 wrote

> If you don't like the fact that these candidates appeal to the lowest common denominator then what are you doing supporting a party that allowed them to gain credit in the first place?

I'd like to ask the Democrats that question, along with, "If these candidates are such a danger to democracy, why did you elevate them?"

Reducing the election to "vote for us or democracy is in danger because we ensured that it would be if you didn't" really doesn't sit well with me. I mean, I know that 99.999% of Democrats have zero problem with that as long as their party maintains power, so it's the strategy I assume we'll see in almost every election going forward.

Nothing more democratic than making people vote for you out of fear.

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lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpxw9g wrote

Hannibal Barka crossed the Alps and crushed the Romans. He did it once because that strategy would never work again because the Romans admitted thier flaw and worked on their own strategy. The Romans responsible for allowing it to happen were humiliated and swore they would never be left so exposed again.

You see what I'm saying?

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warren_stupidity t1_ivqozna wrote

Take responsibility for your voters in your primary. Blaming the Democrats for what your base did is ridiculous. Also Bolduc was the anointed qmaga candidate, at least in my town, long before any Democrats provided any help for the self implosion.

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