wegandi t1_ivpdbf4 wrote on November 9, 2022 at 5:13 PM

Reply to comment by asphynctersayswhat in Trump blames Bolduc's loss on election denial flip-flopping. by lMickNastyl

Pat Buchaninism plays well in the south, not in NH. Anyone with two brain cells understands this. I still cant believe the GOP want anything to do with loser narcissist extradonaire. The bright side is these candidates won their primaries with barely mid 30s votes so hopefully people will repudiate them from now on. That part of the party is not the majority. As a Republican I cant wait til they become irrelevant.

lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpfcp2 wrote on November 9, 2022 at 5:26 PM

As a Democrat I can't wait until the GOP kicks all these degenerates out and replaces them with sensible people. Because then the Democrats will have to actually try again and America as a whole will benefit.

Tullyswimmer t1_ivprqqo wrote on November 9, 2022 at 6:45 PM

Start with having your party stop propping them up during the primaries just so they have an easier path in the general elections.

https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/democrats-spend-53m-to-boost-far-right-gop-candidates/

A lot of these degenerates wouldn't have made it out of the primaries if it weren't for that Democrat money pushing them there. But they're too convenient for Democrats (for the very reason that this post highlights) so they're going to keep trying to make Trumpism happen.

lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpsbdf wrote on November 9, 2022 at 6:49 PM

I get the argument, but you do know Democrats aren't the ones who voted for him right? If the GOP primary voter base had informed voters then they would've shunned bolduc as the obvious trap card that he was.

Tullyswimmer t1_ivpthiu wrote on November 9, 2022 at 6:57 PM

"If the GOP primary base had informed voters"

If the Democrats hadn't spend millions of dollars in an effort to deliberately misinform voters, you mean?

I'm sick of this gaslighting. The Democrats knew exactly what they were doing. And they knew that they could always shift the blame onto the "dumb republican voters". And they knew that their voters would eat it up and cheer it on, because LUL DUMB REPUBLICANS AMIRITE.

It's bullshit. It's legal, but it's bullshit. If you can't convince people to win on policy, then change your policy. Don't try to influence the elections so you can "win" purely by having a less shitty candidate.

lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpvydv wrote on November 9, 2022 at 7:13 PM

The democratic strategy to fund maga candidates is a lot like Murphy's military law:

If a plan is stupid but works it isn't stupid.

If you don't like the fact that these candidates appeal to the lowest common denominator then what are you doing supporting a party that allowed them to gain credit in the first place?

I'm not calling Republicans dumb at all but we all know that the radicalized conspiracy riddled goons lean hard right. Most Republicans in NH are socially liberal but fiscally conservative and don't buy into this bullshit. That's why sunnunu got 320,000+ votes but bolduc got 70,000 less meaning a lot of conservative voters voted for Hassan instead.

The Dems caught the GOP flat footed this time because the GOP wasn't able to counter the strategy because there were no radical Democrats running to fund.

The silver lining here for the GOP is that they are unlikely to humor jerkoffs like bolduc in 2024. Meaning that America may be turning a corner when it comes to hyper controversial candidates running for office.

The simple truth is that there would've been no strategy to use if the GOP ditched their harmful dead weight. Defeat is the greatest teacher and they are unlikely to repeat a mistake twice in a row.

Tullyswimmer t1_ivpwip8 wrote on November 9, 2022 at 7:16 PM

> If you don't like the fact that these candidates appeal to the lowest common denominator then what are you doing supporting a party that allowed them to gain credit in the first place?

I'd like to ask the Democrats that question, along with, "If these candidates are such a danger to democracy, why did you elevate them?"

Reducing the election to "vote for us or democracy is in danger because we ensured that it would be if you didn't" really doesn't sit well with me. I mean, I know that 99.999% of Democrats have zero problem with that as long as their party maintains power, so it's the strategy I assume we'll see in almost every election going forward.

Nothing more democratic than making people vote for you out of fear.

lMickNastyl OP t1_ivpxw9g wrote on November 9, 2022 at 7:26 PM

Hannibal Barka crossed the Alps and crushed the Romans. He did it once because that strategy would never work again because the Romans admitted thier flaw and worked on their own strategy. The Romans responsible for allowing it to happen were humiliated and swore they would never be left so exposed again.

You see what I'm saying?

warren_stupidity t1_ivqozna wrote on November 9, 2022 at 10:20 PM

Take responsibility for your voters in your primary. Blaming the Democrats for what your base did is ridiculous. Also Bolduc was the anointed qmaga candidate, at least in my town, long before any Democrats provided any help for the self implosion.