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mackerdoots t1_ivyldoo wrote

Reply to comment by warren_stupidity in James Roesener is the first out trans man elected to a U.S. state legislature by Geek-Haven888

I feel the people of NH have always been very accepting of people and their personal choices even before the recent big trans movement. Keep in mind we are still discussing a struggle of gender dysphoria and I do worry about holding that up on a pedestal as an example to strive for can add further confusion to the overall younger generations.

Bill Maher himself has even started asking why we aren’t allowed to question the boom in Trans identity. There’s a very clear trend especially in young women transitioning into trans men at a young age. Often found in groups of friends and we all know peer pressure can lead kids to do a lot of things in order to fit in. I think it needs to be ok for everyone to question and discuss it. People in and outside of the trans community should be accepting but also working together to find an answer to this phenomenon.

People say there is a big movement now because people were afraid to come out before. People say before everyone thought something was wrong with them and it was leading to suicide because it wasn’t accepted. but why aren’t we seeing just as sharp of a decline in suicides related to it?

Gender dysphoria is leading to body dysmorphia at a very young ages and there are considerable numbers of people who regret transitioning later in life. It has many similarities to peer pressure that is now trickling down on a national level.

It can be accepted but also discussed to make sure we aren’t over correcting society in a counter productive manor

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Wiked_Pissah t1_ivyx3vp wrote

Accepting?? Have you looked at some of the callous Transphobic comments in this very thread by so many asshats? Accepting is not the word I would use. Where I live we had a young gay man running for state office this week. Monday night he got a threatening email and on election day had numerous insults said to his face at the polling place. Acceptance my ass.

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mackerdoots t1_ivz2kc3 wrote

I mean I can really only speak from personal experience while being as understanding as possible to other peoples circumstances and personal experience. I’m simply saying we should spread tolerance in all directions and be able to discuss it without it being another polarizing political topic. The polarization and extremes of all or nothing can lead to unwanted collateral damage in the long run.

I find people are often disingenuous on the internet and say a lot of things they wouldn’t say to someone in person. Maybe that just shows their true colors or it’s people acting out for attention. Even if they know it’s gonna spark negative attention or just cause polarization. There’s been plenty of people who pretend to be a part of the other side because they crave conflict and validation of their tribe.

I remember there were some black guys in my squadron that actually ended up being the ones who spray painted swastikas on the bathroom stalls. Not saying that’s even most cases but something people need to run through a filter with circumstances. More so when dealing with full anonymity on the internet. I also find a very good chunk of people here aren’t even from the state.

The many people I know in the community are nothing like what this sub would lead you to believe. Maybe I just only surround myself with tolerant people of all spectrums and that’s probably what we all just should do. Too many people seek conflict or entertain it.

You should never let this sub be a reflection or representation of the people of NH. I learned that within days of subscribing

With how polarizing our politics have gotten I think just about everyone running for an office receives threats from some crazy. It should be a legal matter handled by authorities as they would for any American rather than a talking point to victimize or vilify an ever polarizing country.

I don’t particularly like how discussions here go on a tangents as well. It even makes me feel like I’m making excuses for one side or the other at times because I don’t like to consider anything a certainty or set in stone when having an open discussion.

-All people should be tolerant even if that means toward what they believe to be intolerant

-tolerant people should be able to discuss or address concerns. Even if those concerns are from someone they disagree with or will never be able to convince otherwise. When it comes to spreading tolerance the best you can do is set a good example

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hemlockstockandbarel t1_ivyqvay wrote

"Bill Maher himself has even started asking why we aren't allowed the question the boom in trans identity" when did he ask that? Was it, I don't know, on the talk show he hosts that is watched by tons of people?

Seriously the idea that trans people and issues related to them aren't "allowed to be questioned" is just a fantasy. People do it all the time. The important questions have already been asked and answered many times.

And it's really strange to talk about "peer pressure" or "over correcting" in a society where trans people, including trans kids, are very commonly subject to harassment (or much worse) because their identity, and where many places have attempted to ban or have successfully banned things like transition related health care for trans youth, or trans inclusion in sports at any level.

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mackerdoots t1_ivyt8jw wrote

I don’t know if those first questions are supposed to be rhetorical at all but I certainly don’t mind looking it up and providing link if you want.

Having conversations about it and asking questions is what I’m trying to do. I welcome answers. I definitely think it’s all important to discuss often

I don’t harass trans kids or anyone myself so I hope its not strange I’m asking these questions out of personal curiosity. maybe even out of mild concern depending on what we find when discussing it and being tolerant of one another.

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hemlockstockandbarel t1_ivzp093 wrote

Those first questions were rhetorical, yeah.

And if you're actually interested in having an in-depth discussion about trans issues, you gotta realize there's better places to do than in the replies to a random person's comment on the New Hampshire subreddit.

Trans people are, generally, inclined to doubt the sincerity random people presenting "honest questions" or "concerns", cuz it's pretty common for transphobes to show up asking ostensibly innocent questions in bad faith, as a way of wasting the trans person's time, getting them frustrated, and using that frustration to make them look angry and irrational.

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