Submitted by uzernaimed t3_yrxrn6 in newhampshire
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[deleted] t1_iw3uadk wrote
Literally sat at a bar listening to a bunch of fat old men whine about it.
Pretty surreal.
dangerdaves t1_iwbxz4u wrote
I guarantee the fat old men at the bar aren’t trying to go win miss American beauty pageant. So not catching your point.
[deleted] t1_iy199fx wrote
My point is that men who have NEVER cared about beauty pageants suddenly care when its "weird."
It's literally pure outrage culture from the demographic that hates outrage culture.
What you're missing is the irony. You seem like someone who doesn't get irony, dangerdave.
tiyopablo69 t1_iwegp1b wrote
A fat young man just won a beauty pageant for Woman. We should be proud that this thing prove that Man is better than a woman in all aspects
[deleted] t1_iy19knf wrote
This reads like "I have a DUI"
Perfect-Violinist542 t1_iw70ev1 wrote
No one cares about beauty pagents. It's about the distortion of reality. Or are you telling me this is the new beauty? Also it feels like a clown world we are living in. A sort of the kaisers new clothes kinda deal. And we aren't even allowed to comment or what?
dangerdaves t1_iwbxu00 wrote
Preach
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BasedChad23 t1_iwnnay2 wrote
I don't get this take. Yeah I don't give a shit about beauty pagents. But those other girls who competed obviously do. It's not fair on them.
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tiyopablo69 t1_iwegh56 wrote
Maybe because Woman wins a beauty pageant that looks beautiful. This is a Dude that's UGLY 😂
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tiyopablo69 t1_iwjujk9 wrote
He is UGLY and you can't accept the fact
Rickbirb t1_ivw8tah wrote
🤡 world lol
knottedoaks t1_ivwfrvi wrote
A large majority of women vote for candidates that support this. These women and their daughters are the ones being affected by stuff like this in athletics and competitions. I say let them reap what they sow. I don’t care and congrats to the ‘winner’.
Ok_Birthday749 t1_ivxp2zn wrote
Kinda like they don’t feel like it’s a threat to them perhaps. The Republican base is the party known for ALWAYS voting against their own self interest. That’s what happens when your base is literally comprised of the uneducated ignorant masses. Ever wonder why your party is so against education funding? Because you have to be fucking stupid to support them. That is the clown world we are living in. People like you have turned this country into a living breathing live action version of Idiocracy. It would be funny if it weren’t so fucking mind blowing. Half of this country is literally the laughing stock of the entire fucking world and it’s not the half you think it is. It’s the half you belong too.
MisterBowTies t1_ivwn5s5 wrote
I'm not mad that she's trans... but if she was cisgender there is no way she would win or even be in the running.
poutine-pal t1_ivydpcx wrote
Right?!
LFRebel_603 t1_ivwnfi6 wrote
I live in Derry and haven't heard anything about this and can't find any local news or posts about anything like this happening.
WPDE isn't even a NH station. Derry is a pretty heavily Republican leaning town and yet there's no local mention of this. No outrage on the town's Facebook page and Derry Republicans get triggered over the smallest things, so it would definitely be mentioned locally.
Consistent-Winter-67 t1_ivwuw29 wrote
The only place reporting this news are far right papers. At this point not sure how valid this story is.
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Rare_Message_7204 t1_ivw8jba wrote
Terrible. An outright attack on biological women.
Fabulous-Algae-408 t1_ivwcbwe wrote
Yup poor girls that actually put in work just to be beat by a fat dude absolutely sickening
RelationshipBig2798 t1_ivwki1k wrote
Exactly it's messed up.
poutine-pal t1_ivye3wu wrote
It’s an outright attack on aesthetics. It’s not even a trans thing- there are tons of fit and attractive trans women out there.
MesaVerde87 t1_ivw8v5i wrote
Exactly. Haven't women been through enough this year?
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Rare_Message_7204 t1_ivwawmq wrote
Another stupid label, nice.
yo_mama_5000 t1_ivwajww wrote
Events like this show the fear in people. Fear in those judges that felt if they did not vote for this person, they would be seen as bigoted, intolerant, and hateful. That they might be called out publicly. Canceled. Have their jobs threatened.
anonymous_gam t1_ivwdvdj wrote
It’s more the fear of the intolerant who crumble at the thought of anything different.
brand1996 t1_ivxod79 wrote
What is the different approach being offered here? Explain it to me?
Consistent-Winter-67 t1_ivwj6ov wrote
Look at these comments. It's sickening that these people would be so shitty over something they wouldn't have any stake in nor care about otherwise.
RexBlackwood t1_ivxliym wrote
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
George Orwell, 1984
KipBong-un t1_iw233p7 wrote
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Curious4NotGood t1_iw0klrl wrote
Unironically quoting George Orwell as if he would be a transphobe, he was progressive and definitely saw trans people as who they are.
Puzzlesocks t1_iw35orf wrote
It's one thing to see someone as just another human who is trans. It's quite another to pretend a man is actually a woman to the point of giving them money meant for women's scholarships. I'm not scholar of Orwell, but I'm pretty certain he's be against calling things what they obviously aren't.
Just imagine how it feels for those girls to be basically told they are less attractive than an obese man in a dress? It's not that long ago that this would have been a gigantic insult to women, now I guess it's seen as "progress".
Curious4NotGood t1_iw3kso2 wrote
>It's quite another to pretend a man is actually a woman to the point of giving them money meant for women's scholarships.
They are women, so they deserve those scholarships, but i'm pretty sure that's not a huge issue.
>I'm not scholar of Orwell, but I'm pretty certain he's be against calling things what they obviously aren't.
I'm pretty sure he would, he was pretty progressive, but we will never know.
>Just imagine how it feels for those girls to be basically told they are less attractive than an obese man in a dress?
They probably feel happy for that other girl, literally no one except you has an issue with that.
> It's not that long ago that this would have been a gigantic insult to women, now I guess it's seen as "progress".
Yes, it is progress, trans women are being able to not only participate, but also win these competitions. The freedom of society can only be measured by how we treat its most stigmatized people.
xxl_gal t1_iw95pd8 wrote
>They are women, so they deserve those scholarships
THIS
Puzzlesocks t1_iw3rh46 wrote
Sure, we can just forget the literal mountain of evidence showing how men are not women /s. It's one thing to say that these scholarships are discriminating based off sex/race/whatever, but when you start trying to ignore the obvious reality then you're off your rocker. I just want to be clear that what you are pretending is true is completely and totally baseless. It's progress for sure, but more in the sense that cancer progresses.
I'm not going to waste time arguing with your ideological foundation, but I highly recommend you don't speak on these subjects until you have ANY proof of theory.
This pageant is a private affair I believe. They can run it how they want, but they can't control how people react to it, nor the actual reality. I can hold a competition to say blue is the best shade of red, but it doesn't change the fact that these are different wavelengths.
Curious4NotGood t1_iw3saal wrote
>Sure, we can just forget the literal mountain of evidence showing how men are not women /s
You consider trans women as "men" just like how racists considered black women as "too mannish" and subsequently segregated them.
>I just want to be clear that what you are pretending is true is completely and totally baseless.
Which part? Pretty sure it is backed up by most medical organizations that sex and gender are separate, so males can be women and females can be men.
>I'm not going to waste time arguing with your ideological foundation, but I highly recommend you don't speak on these subjects until you have ANY proof of theory.
I have a lot of experience on this subject, i used to transition :D
>I can hold a competition to say blue is the best shade of red, but it doesn't change the fact that these are different wavelengths.
Yeah, but humans are not as simple as different wavelengths of light are they?
Puzzlesocks t1_iw420sq wrote
False equivocation doesn't work on me. If you want to try being manipulative, go do it to someone else. It doesn't help your argument nor provide any evidence. Sex and gender being separate is true, but just means guys can be feminine and girls can be masculine. It does not mean that these things are arbitrary categorizations.
I mean if you actually are trans, you should know better than anyone that we call these "treatments" feminizing and masculinizing for a reason. You aren't changing your sex, you are changing how you appear to others. You don't get to destroy other peoples protected categories without reprisal just because of your feelings.
Curious4NotGood t1_iw43fz7 wrote
> Sex and gender being separate is true, but just means guys can be feminine and girls can be masculine.
Nope, it means males can be women, and females can be men.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/gender-matters/sex-and-gender
https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html
>It does not mean that these things are arbitrary categorizations.
They are
>I mean if you actually are trans, you should know better than anyone that we call these "treatments" feminizing and masculinizing for a reason.
That's just faulty naming, feminizing is a biological term, while being feminine is a behavior. Unless you think all feminine men have vaginas.
>You aren't changing your sex, you are changing how you appear to others.
You're changing a lot of your sex as well, sex is a lotta things, primary sex characterestics (chromosomes, hormones, organs) and secondary characterestics (body fat ratio, metabolism, hair growth, voice, breast growth, etc).
And every one of them changes with hormones and surgery except for chromosomes.
>You don't get to destroy other peoples protected categories without reprisal just because of your feelings.
Exactly, trans women deserve the same as cis women, because trans women are women, regardless of how you feel about it.
Puzzlesocks t1_iw4cny6 wrote
So, the Canadian link agrees with me except it makes a caveat that gender can change how it's expressed depending on different factors, again true. That's completely different from saying it doesn't exist. It doesn't mean they are arbitrary and can be changed at will to whatever you want. All it ends up meaning is that you are swimming against a torrential waterfall of evidence against you so you can try to convince society that men and women aren't different. Good luck with that.
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The UK link you sent me is utopian dogma. I mean seriously? "SDGs are a universal call to action to end poverty, protect the planet and ensure that all people enjoy peace and prosperity by 2030". They got 7 years to establish world peace, destroy capitalism, end climate change, and destroy observable reality. I guess I wish them luck?
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As for the third link from the council of Europe... it specifically states that the new usage of the word gender is meant to fight against biological determinism. While I disagree with what some proponents of biological determinism state (in the same way I disagree on the trans issue, people drawing causation from correlation), you would be incredibly ignorant on these topics to think genetics doesn't play a role in literally everything about you. Your lack of ANY biological knowledge is actually mind blowing to me.
I know I won't change your mind, and I don't intend to respond again to a militant ideologue. I just want to suggest you really think about your actions and read The Art of War. The way you activist types are going about this is at best a 50/50 shot of self destruction, but more than likely you're just going to radicalize people to the point that whatever imagined violence you see now is going to turn much more real and much more harsh. Your dogmatic attitude is going to hurt untold numbers of uninvolved and very real people, and I intend to fight it so long as it exists.
Curious4NotGood t1_iw6h4w8 wrote
If you disagree with scientific evidence, doesn't make the evidence not true.
Then_Ear t1_ivxnnb0 wrote
I have more of an issue with the fact that she is fat and ugly, then that she used to be a man.
FishHuntCatchEat t1_ivwc7bg wrote
Not a chance in hell that guy is the best looking lady on that stage…. This world is sickening!!
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_ivwhca6 wrote
At the very least, he’s not the fittest. In other words, he is kind of chubby.
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sqqqrly t1_ivynnq8 wrote
Why do we discriminate against women in NH?
RelationshipBig2798 t1_ivwcy0u wrote
That things weighs over twice the weight of any of the competition. Disgusting. Clown world for real.
seanwalter123 t1_ivwi7f7 wrote
Fucking sickening how this is being portrayed as normal and healthy. It’s not. We’re now living in 2 different realities, the reality that you want, and actual reality. A man is not a woman, a woman is not a man. This coercion that if you speak out about this you’re a pos needs to stop. This puts actual females who are competing in this in a spot where they can’t complain or else the mob will attack them, even when they have every right to. That man isn’t even close to pageant worthy, but to appease a small group of loud individuals it was picked out of a pool of substantially better candidates. This is turning into a epidemic at this point, where the people who partake in this bs do it so they get a sense of feeling special because everyone panders to it, 80% do it out of fear of losing their jobs, 20% actually believe this cult. Western culture is turning into nothing but a clown show at this point.
cocacola-enema t1_ivwknyc wrote
Widdle twiggered baby!
seanwalter123 t1_ivxshvj wrote
Age is social construct. I’m not a twiggered baby, I’m now a transracial transsexual 22 year old. GIVE ME SPECIAL TREATMENT NOW!
TheodoeBhabrot t1_ivxtxbv wrote
ooh its the one joke you know other than your personality
kikrs999 t1_ivwk3cp wrote
It’s normal and healthy! And this is the reality I want. Pretty cool this milestone happened in NH. Also, gender’s a social construct, bruh!
seanwalter123 t1_ivwl8h3 wrote
If we’re living in your reality everything is a social construct, we’re not going off of the previous 300,000 years, we’re just going off of the past decade. Gender has been attached to sex since the beginning of time, but somehow since people want to feel special and get special treatment/attention we’re going to change the way things have been done since humans were drawing in caves. If this is so normal and healthy why the massive age gap? If it’s not an ideology that is mostly formed in gen Z shouldn’t every age group have a similar percentage of “trans”? there’s so many holes in this bs you must see it.
Ok_Birthday749 t1_ivxo91w wrote
Perhaps because it was literally unsafe to be out as trans before now. It still is unsafe. I agree there’s a sort of bandwagon thing happening but at least young people feel more free and safe to explore who they might be as opposed to generations past who had to fit into some narrow definition of what you should be or look like based on your sex organs. Fuck I’m just a “tomboy” type of woman and even I have spent my life being made fun of for being too masculine or being told by men I’m not feminine enough for them because I don’t spend loads of money on makeup, nails, hair and plastic surgery. And I assure you I look quite womanly lol.
ETA: the percentage of the human population born as intersex is the same as those born with red hair. So even if you wanna narrowly define who “should” be trans to the people born with ambiguous sex organs or both male and female sex organs or chromosomal abnormalities that’s still a lot of people. They just aren’t hiding as much now because they feel like there is a place for them in the world to be accepted.
seanwalter123 t1_ivxrra9 wrote
Do you have a single piece of data to support your unsafe claim and reasoning? I have yet to find one. When did letting your kids just take the wheel and make horrible decisions become the norm? That’s the total opposite of what parenting is supposed to be, you’re supposed to be the guide. The red hair thing is a good example but doesn’t explain the phenomenon of gen z. I would agree with you the box we expect woman to live by should be expanded, you’re indeed a woman, even if you’re not super feminine lol nothing wrong with being a “tomboy”. I’d say they’re definitely is something wrong with getting an automatic win in a pageant because you wanted special treatment, then getting that special treatment and forcing everyone to go along with it or get lynched in the streets for it by once again a small but loud minority. This is as bad as shit that happens in china, go to a corporate job and say you don’t agree with this and they’ll fire you on the spot, this isn’t normal, and the fact people who don’t want to play this game are either having their tongues ripped out or being forced to say things they don’t agree with is sickening.
Ok_Birthday749 t1_ivxsmdm wrote
There is a plethora of data available on the internet about the rates of violence against trans people especially women. It was the same for decades for gay people. I’m not going to do your job for you. If you really care to be educated you can easily find that data. I did say I agree with the bandwagon phenomenon. And it’s sucks that it’s not possible to have an actual dialog about this because you immediately get labeled as hateful. Like I definitely have views on this that many would say makes me transphobic. I never said I thought it was ok for kids to be taking puberty blockers etc. Although if a child is known to have been born intersex that is different. And many are. We just didn’t know it in the past and nobody was listening to these kids when they said they felt like they were in the wrong body. They were just assigned a gender and sex at birth based on what it looked like was the closest fit based on the outward appearance of the genitalia when a whole bunch of other stuff was going on internally inside the body. This isn’t a simple black and white issue at all that people wanna make it out to be. I mean what are you gonna do if you find out your kid has ovaries and that the small penis he has it’s actually an enlarged clitoris? Nobody wants to talk about these things but they are not as uncommon as people think they are. Or your daughter is found to have undescended testicles.
Puzzlesocks t1_iw3bety wrote
A lot of the data we have is either slanted, misrepresented, or just factually incorrect. The trans suicide rate constantly repeated for instance is actually just suicidal thoughts. If the suicide rate was actually as high as they say then even despite the extremely small number of trans people the annual suicide rate would be many times higher and completely dominated by trans people. So much of this has become a horrible game of telephone. We need to forget this group identity nonsense and stop letting uneducated activists disseminate scientific studies for the public.
As far as this being a beauty competition so it doesn't matter... I mean, a lot goes into this and I don't want to write an actual essay. I'll just say that when one of the things you take pride in is intruded upon that most people feel threatened. I think these competitions are dumb and even potentially harmful to women's image in general, but letting an obese man in a dress win it is even more harmful because it says that women don't even have that beauty to begin with.
Is that harm good or bad? I tend to think bad because it denies the basic human experience, but the real answer is that we don't know the result of attempting to tweak these cultural levers. I will say you shouldn't ever feel bad for whatever you are naturally attracted to, we know now that it's just another inalienable characteristic. The point of a beauty contest though is to show what the plurality of people (at least within a sub group) find attractive. I can't imagine the target audience of this pageant is a group that finds him more attractive than these women, but I've been surprised before.
seanwalter123 t1_ivxtkf2 wrote
There is no long term data supporting that , A violence against transgenderism was prominent, and a reason for the lack of it existing. B the reason you must accept it is because they’ll commit suicide like they used to. You’re 👌 especially the actual intersex stuff is spot on and something that needs further evaluation and unfortunately I believe the evidence with this current gen z age group proves it that this is just group think, seeking to be different/ special treatment.
Ok_Birthday749 t1_ivxuc5e wrote
There’s no long term data because it’s a new field of study but ALL the data shows much higher rates of violence. And yes I agree that there is a component of it being a fad as do the few trans people I know. I’m Gen X. And even trans people are afraid to voice these opinions because they get labeled as traitors to their community. I’m just so sick of people not being able to have a conversation about things. Like the dumbing down of our society has reached a critical level lol. Like no way should trans folks be competing in sports with their chosen gender. There are biological advantages for people born male regardless of hormone level requirements. Bone density, limb length, muscle mass and structure and the list goes on and on. And in those cases I 100% agree with people being pissed. But Miss America? Lol give me a break. If people are butt hurt that their narrow definition of beauty is changing they can ya know, fuck right off or just ignore it.
morus_rubra t1_ivynlq2 wrote
This is the ugliest Miss I have ever seen. There are plenty of pretty trans girls. This is not one of them. Ugly and fat, plain and simple.
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Accomplished-Bet8945 t1_iwayqk7 wrote
Found the creepy tranny. No one gives af about what you think either freak
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dangerdaves t1_iwby8c1 wrote
I don’t think he was offended by it. Just pointed out the fact the guy is ugly as hell.
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tiyopablo69 t1_iwegtds wrote
He is ugly and it's a fact
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tiyopablo69 t1_iwjumnh wrote
Why you trying so hard to defend him, are you his lover?
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Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_iw0508h wrote
Yes he is obese. An obese woman wouldn’t have been allowed to even compete.
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Middle_Sock7602 t1_ivy7nka wrote
Think it's time for these contests to stop.
Beautiful_Repeat_718 t1_ivygsj9 wrote
This contest is a scholarship program too. That makes it even worse. Like 'Here is some money to help further your education, but you only get it if a panel of old men get to judge you and determine if you are the prettiest girl they see all day.'
MindlessHousing t1_ivykfsm wrote
> ...you only get it if a panel of old men get to judge you and determine if you are the prettiest girl they see all day.'
I guess it's good news to you that a homely man 'won' instead.
xxl_gal t1_iw95mp4 wrote
Because you don't like the results..?
anonymous_gam t1_ivwcu8l wrote
These comments are exactly the trash fire I expected.
wegandi t1_ivwe86l wrote
Beauty pageants are literally only about superficiality. If she was a hot trans woman very few people would give a shit (aka no one cares about Miss America anyways), but this is just literally a joke. Its so blatantly obvious the subversion of the event itself for a political statement. Come on now. All the other women have to be facepalming.
zetterbeauty t1_ivzsmog wrote
I’m sure the comments will be kind and respectful.
MesaVerde87 t1_ivw8dil wrote
How can it be a 'Miss America' pageant if it's just in New Hampshire?
Aloha_Snackbar357 t1_ivw90d0 wrote
It was a “Miss America Organization” pageant. Miss Greater Derry. It’s a prelim for the statewide pagent which crowns Miss New Hampshire, who then goes on to the official Miss America Pagent
uzernaimed OP t1_ivw946r wrote
It's a preliminary event for Miss NH, then Miss America.
MindlessHousing t1_ivwbyby wrote
By what criteria ?
[deleted] t1_ivwiozj wrote
It was by dick size, very inspiring story
Fabulous-Algae-408 t1_ivwsw2b wrote
Lmao best comment
vexingsilence t1_ivwio8k wrote
Whatever the mob demands.
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Fabulous-Algae-408 t1_ivwsnrt wrote
The lady that crowned her is about 300lbs
Potential-Insurance3 t1_iw9ess2 wrote
This guy's parents must be real proud
peterman86 t1_iwaqjdf wrote
LOL!!! This has to be a joke!!!! Dude looking like Samoa Joe with a wig on, who lost a bet and had to compete with a straight face.
Women, where's the outrage. All the years of training, dieting, competing, travelling for what, so a woke agenda takes a dump on your dreams? Where's the respect for women? The hypocrisy is so blatant.
This new whatever the f*ck you call it has ZERO regard for you. The beast system is now in your face, up front and waiting for a response.
CDogNH t1_ivw9ii6 wrote
Model for before pictures?
RelationshipBig2798 t1_ivwd0dx wrote
Can anyone look up who the judges were?
badpmkn t1_ivxhxkd wrote
Mr. Magoo, Ray Charles, and Flavor Flav !
Consistent-Winter-67 t1_ivwgj7r wrote
So you can send them death threats?
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Ok_Birthday749 t1_ivxon15 wrote
Actually the percentage of the human population born as intersex is about the same as the percentage born with red hair.
NickTz20 t1_ivxrsyi wrote
You keep saying that. Where do you see those numbers?
Ok_Birthday749 t1_ivxsqpr wrote
Amnesty International for one. Hit the Google button for fucks sake.
NickTz20 t1_ivxt6i8 wrote
I mean that's not anything I ever thought I'd have to Google and I'm not sure who the fuck amnesty international is lol.
Ahhh a quick Google search shows here that they're a left wing nut activity group. They also don't seem to have the resources to give you accuracy on that claim you're making. I'd take it with a grain of salt.
Ok_Birthday749 t1_ivxtbcr wrote
Amnesty International is a well known and long standing non profit organization with a mission to end human rights abuses throughout the world. If you think that makes them nuts than you’re a moron and there’s not hope for you.
Consistent-Winter-67 t1_ivwh9s7 wrote
Gotcha, you're just transphobic trash.
seanwalter123 t1_ivwjhk7 wrote
You’re a cultist who lives in an alternate reality, who thinks somehow believing you’re a different gender should put you on some sort of high ground over people who are actually said gender. This MAN has no business in a “miss” America pageant. Just because it believes it’s now a woman doesn’t make it a women. Just because you want to accept it as a women doesn’t make it a women. It’s a man thinking they’re a woman, two totally different things. One is gender, one is a mental illness.
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TestingForTwitter t1_ivwzgnp wrote
Do you know who doesn't agree with that diagnosis?
Any valid mental health practitioner.
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These fucking shit stirring accounts are so tiring. This whole comment section is filled with tourists spreading hate.
We get it, you're angry. Get fucked.
TheodoeBhabrot t1_ivxu3ky wrote
No they’re laughing because this country has a bunch of bigots like you in it
poutine-pal t1_ivydhk6 wrote
Lmao she is FAT and she is UNATTRACTIVE. It doesn’t matter that she’s trans…. I have seen a lot of smoking hot trans women. This “winner” is a dumpster fire. I thought these winners were supposed to have grace, poise, and fitness. Lmao
5nd t1_iw2e9pf wrote
Only Rosie O'Donnell!
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_iw05a7a wrote
That’s missing the point. A trans woman —who is so convincing the old men with poor eyesight couldn’t even tell that she’s a male—winning would be valid, but that’s rarely the case with trans women.
srfyrk418 t1_iw6vh52 wrote
Why aren’t feminists standing up to this nonsense?
xxl_gal t1_iw94p67 wrote
What nonsense?
dangerdaves t1_iwbxqi1 wrote
It’s a person with a dick winning miss America. Are you blind.
xxl_gal t1_iwbyn6c wrote
>It’s a person with a dick winning miss America. Are you blind.
I'm not seeing how that matters AT ALL. A women won in a women's contest. Go ahead and get mad, but getting mad won't change the progress we've made.
Nothing you can do will stop this so you better get used to it.
dangerdaves t1_iwc10r9 wrote
Bahahaha you funny.
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sheienr t1_iwe5uu8 wrote
🤮🤮🤮🤮
Remove the pic please or at least mark it nsfw
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srfyrk418 t1_ix9gj6v wrote
definition of a woman..an adult female human being.
definiton of a female....of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.
Quantity_Lanky t1_iw74zb5 wrote
The judges of the contest are probably salivating at the thought to have intimate relationship with the winner, no?
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_ivw998i wrote
3 words: tolerance and inclusion.
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cbeaudry5 t1_ivysd4z wrote
Ok-Glass7272 t1_iw3anli wrote
Read the title, saw the picture.
Ahh, reddit...got my popcorn ready. Time to scroll down...
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xariznightmare2908 t1_iw5wrc7 wrote
We truly live in a clown world.
tiyopablo69 t1_iweg9vx wrote
What an early April Fool joke
tiyopablo69 t1_iwlqea9 wrote
He is UGLY that's a fact
Athousandnopes t1_ivwc5k9 wrote
Who did he beat?
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_ivwhdwf wrote
Biological females.
Athousandnopes t1_ivwiapc wrote
Maybe that was the best Derry had to offer? Or the judges weren’t very good?
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_ivyeui9 wrote
“Best derry had to offer” …are you serious?
“Judges aren’t very good?” I’d say so.
ThunderySleep t1_iw57fj1 wrote
I can only assume this is the prettiest woman in Derry NH.
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_iw59d87 wrote
You could throw a rock and hit a hotter woman in Derry.
Athousandnopes t1_ivyv948 wrote
I’ve never been to Derry but I know some people that moved there and they def would not have won a beauty pagent so it’s a valid question
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_iw04o12 wrote
No it’s absolutely not lol. You think an obese biological male should have beat the competition? An obese woman wouldn’t even have been allowed to compete. I don’t even need to see his competition to say he shouldn’t have won.
Athousandnopes t1_iw0t01g wrote
Still hard to say. One lady I knew had a real bad stutter. That would have affected the talent portion of the event. I heard she died a few years ago when she hit an embankment
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_iw0umgk wrote
This lady wasn’t in the beauty pageant so how is that relevant? Also, you sound like a dick if you’re saying that a woman who has a stutter can’t be beautiful.
Athousandnopes t1_iw2z7om wrote
I said the stutter would affect the talent portion. Nothing to do with beauty. So you think a man dressed as a woman can’t be beautiful?
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_iw2zemm wrote
Why, do they have to talk? Aren’t they just eye candy?
Yes, I do think that.
Athousandnopes t1_iw3cjnd wrote
Wow you sound like a dick if you’re saying a man can’t be beautiful
Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_iw4a0rz wrote
Not like a woman can.
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ThunderySleep t1_iw50qbg wrote
Wow. And to think, every single woman in Derry NH is less attractive than that.
cocacola-enema t1_ivwk2nj wrote
In this thread: Triggered Snowflakes.
Rickbirb t1_ivwlntt wrote
If you don't see anything wrong with this you need professional help.
cocacola-enema t1_ivwlqxe wrote
Have you considered: Eating my entire cock and balls?
TestingForTwitter t1_ivwzuot wrote
Most if not all are not even from New Hampshire.
They just bounce from sub to sub when these sort of topics are posted and brigade them with hate.
No valid discussion at all, just strong opinions based on outdated ideas.
It's so transparent and sad.
NickTz20 t1_ivxrls0 wrote
Traditional>outdated
seanwalter123 t1_ivxs4tx wrote
“Outdated” based on what? Just because you believe something is archaic doesn’t make it archaic. When the majority of the country believes this “outdated” ideas they’re in fact, not outdated . This is the alternate reality people who but into this trash are in. Just because you believe something doesn’t make it true, just like this thing being a woman, that is for sure a fat male that has zero business winning anything, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
TestingForTwitter t1_ivya98n wrote
The actual reality is they won though...
Rickbirb t1_iw0ib02 wrote
Winning out of pity or wanting to appear modern and progressive is not really a win though is it.
TestingForTwitter t1_iw2qf18 wrote
Sure, if that's what happened. I don't know, I don't go to teen beauty pageants, that would be weird. Did you go? Do you know that's what happened?
KB_ReDZ t1_iw3p2sj wrote
"if that's what happened"
It's painfully obvious that is exactly what happened. Let's return to reality just a little here.
TestingForTwitter t1_iw4ycdc wrote
I live in reality. You right wing mo's are the ones denying reality.
The world is changing.
Keep up or be left behind.
If I was wrong, this wouldn't have happened and this discussion wouldn't be happening, but it did.
KB_ReDZ t1_iw5j16h wrote
Then you're not returning to reality...
Think whatever you want, people who are not brain washed can see this for exactly what it is and nothing you say will change that. This person is in no way more attractive than any of the people they ran against, pictures are out there you know...
But either a fear of being labeled a phobe, or a want to look progressive are the single only options here for why they won. That is reality, regardless if you see it for what it is.
Nobody is being left behind, but trust this type of bullshit is pushing people away from being as accepting as they would otherwise. This entire thread and any other on the matter have a majority of people calling it for what it is, and thats on a very left leaning platform btw.
But by all means, keep playing dumb and keep pushing people away from the cause by being purposefully obtuse.
"If I was wrong, this wouldn't have happened"
This is an extremely weak argument and proves absolutely nothing. Plenty of things have happened that ended up being wrong.
TestingForTwitter t1_iw5rstg wrote
> This person is in no way more attractive than any of the people they ran against, pictures are out there you know...
So you're saying this teenager is not attractive enough for you?
KB_ReDZ t1_iw8tkec wrote
People like you are so fucking frustrating to discuss things with. You know my post was right and that you have no response, so you look for something you can attack. Typical redditor. You know damn well what I meant.
Next time just admit to taking the L.
TestingForTwitter t1_iw9y5gf wrote
I don't "know my post was right".
I know you are wrong.
Given that, it's not worth engaging with you seriously.
That said, you were the one who used "attractive".
Also it was established in this comment that it's not even a "beauty" contest anymore, so you're yet again working off an outdated idea.
I think your idea of reality is not wrong, just no longer valid. It's what used to be.
Rickbirb t1_iw5n1nd wrote
In reality dressing as a woman does not make you one.
Rickbirb t1_iw4dwj3 wrote
It's a beauty pageant, stop being obtuse.
TestingForTwitter t1_iw4y4sp wrote
> Originating in 1921 as a "bathing beauty revue", the contest is now judged on competitors' talent performances and interviews.
It's actually not, so stop being ignorant.
Rickbirb t1_iw4yepn wrote
Then why did you call it a teen beauty pageant? Stop being so ignorant 🙃
Fat dudes don't belong in events for women.
TestingForTwitter t1_iw4yj2n wrote
I was being ignorant and then I informed myself.
It's called growth. Try it. It will make you a better person.
Rickbirb t1_iw5mc8u wrote
Supporting strange men to compete in womens events does not make you a better person.
seanwalter123 t1_ivyatms wrote
“Won” by having their hands tied and their tongues ripped out. If you consider that winning you’re sick. Only thing it won was biggest dick and waste size in the comp.
TestingForTwitter t1_ivyd0sp wrote
Ah, sorry, didn't realize you were there and actually witnessed what happened.
That must be the case over you just assuming shit and making up a story in your head, right?
What's a lonely internet troll doing at a teen beauty pageant anyway?
You being a hate filled person is sick. Get help.
craigawoo t1_ivwbtwb wrote
Ok
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5nd t1_ivw8lw8 wrote
No picture?
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Michiganderanian t1_ivx209y wrote
Who in their right mind thought he needed to be circled? As if you can't immediately tell lol
NickTz20 t1_ivxts4p wrote
To the chick that blocked me that's comparing red heads to trans -
Woah you hit copy and paste on their "about us" tab 😂
Ending human rights abuse is great and all but, considering it's a British activist group, not an American actual company with the tools to perform such statistics your point is still invalid.
Also, I still don't see your statistics on their website.
sauteedmushroomz t1_ivwghkh wrote
So proud of her!! As someone who competed in the NH beauty competition circuit, I hope my other alumni come out and support her as well :)
ThunderySleep t1_iw50ihq wrote
This woman's prettier than you?
sauteedmushroomz t1_iw5cxte wrote
well, she’s wearing the crown isn’t she?
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