kells938 t1_iweqvis wrote on November 15, 2022 at 2:20 AM

Reply to comment by zeus6793 in PSA: Sicknesses in the coming months by SpringLover455

Surprisingly not as easy as you'd think.

https://blog.accuchex.com/paid-sick-leave-and-sick-leave-abuse

That goes into it costing employers.

https://www.hrmorning.com/news/study-shows-federal-employee-sick-leave-abuse/

That one the inspector general found IRS employees abusing it.

Unfortunately most of the articles that come up are employers policies, managers asking what they can do about abuse and state laws regarding leave.

zeus6793 t1_iwerjht wrote on November 15, 2022 at 2:25 AM

Hmmm, maybe I'm wrong. I thought for sure I read that employees are more honest about their work times than was originally thought. It was some sort of academic journal perhaps. Well, either way, I hate the entire idea of PTO. It's a way for the corporation to limit your days off and avoids paying you when they can. It's driven by greed and control.

kells938 t1_iwesolg wrote on November 15, 2022 at 2:33 AM

Unfortunately the internet sucks these days. So much misinformation and contradictory articles out there. You never know what is legit or not. As an employee, I absolutely love how my sick time, vacation and personal time are all separate. But I can also see why employers would hate it. Because, no matter how many downvotes I get, there are people out there that abuse anything they can.

zeus6793 t1_iwex2oe wrote on November 15, 2022 at 3:06 AM

I will admit, I was also surprised when I saw that article. It certainly feels like it's not true. I worked in the auto industry for 30 years. People suck. They will lie, cheat and steal if they can get away with it, so I'm not surprised if it was bullshit.

Nowhere_X_Anywhere t1_iweycsd wrote on November 15, 2022 at 3:16 AM

Part of why it is compartmentalized is to make it easier to address abuse. Personal/sick time can be used with no/little notice.

People burn that time and then get termed for trying to use their vacation time without notice.

Attendance is the easiest way to term a bad employee with cause. Categorizing time off makes the process transparent for all parties including Unemployment Insurance.