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rabblebowser t1_iyhd7er wrote

"Lyon was a lifelong gun owner who believed in the recreational use of firearms and hosted a talk about responsible gun ownership with the New London Country Squires, a social luncheon group, in June.""

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Maldonian t1_iyhtuhu wrote

Unfortunately, it appears he was also an asshole who believed in recreationally murdering his wife.

Thankfully, most gun owners manage to make it all the way through their lives without being assholes or murdering their wives.

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KrissaKray t1_iyhmsuy wrote

Okay and?

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dahwhat t1_iyhop5w wrote

Obviously we're ALL murderers

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largeb789 t1_iyi57fh wrote

No, we're not. But it's really hard to ignore the fact that having a gun in the house does lead to an increased risk of someone in the house dying from the gun. Usually through suicide. My guns are all locked up, but having them used in a suicide is reason enough for me to consider selling them. A murder suicide would be even worse.

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dahwhat t1_iyi9cez wrote

As a rational person/mutiple gun household, I don't disagree with you, but, in my house we get therapy before suicide/homicide becomes a thought.

Too bad some people choose to not do the same.

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FatherOfTheVoid t1_iyigrkp wrote

If I want to kill my self, I shouldn't be limited to ropes and heroin. Stop trying to take away my rights.

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largeb789 t1_iyivgdh wrote

So me reconsidering whether I want guns in my home affect your rights? Please explain.

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FatherOfTheVoid t1_iyizunp wrote

Because I, if I'm suicidal, want to be able to walk into your home and kill myself with your guns.

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dj_narwhal t1_iyifq8c wrote

It is much less detached from the action to pull a trigger than to stab her or poison her. Guns are a tool that make killing easier. That is why we bring them hunting, I can't chase down a partridge and I would not hunt if I had to beat them to death with my hands. Seems messy.

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KrissaKray t1_iyiouiz wrote

But you could always use a compound bow 💁🏼‍♀️

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valleyman02 t1_iyhp6nu wrote

We have a record year for homicides by gun. That's at least the third double homicide of the year and we're way over 30 homicides when the record of the state is only 29. Your freedom doesn't give you the freedom to blow my head off. Edit for swearing at a troll. I hate trolls.

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FaustusC t1_iyhpv0m wrote

Ah yes.

An 80 year old killing his spouse and himself means we're all in danger.

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valleyman02 t1_iyhqurl wrote

No record homicide rate by guns means we're all in a lot more danger than we used to be. Some hunters have gone crazy this year. I just had a guy shoot a rifle at night from his truck less than 300 ft from my house. Shots are going off after dark almost every week. People have lost their mind.

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CheliceraeJones t1_iyi4z9o wrote

No one should be shooting a firearm from a vehicle. Call the police if you witness that happen, and try to get the license plate if you can do so safely.

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FaustusC t1_iyhrr41 wrote

You're welcome to move back to California if it suits you better.

Also, if you're not involved in crime or actively abusing your partner, your odds of dying by firearm are miniscule. In the US, I believe I read today we were at 20,000 homicides in a country of 320,000,000 people. A notable amount of the deceased were dealing narcotics, involved in gang activities or other criminal dealings. Now that said, do you still have a reason to worry?

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psiloryben t1_iyhyj4t wrote

>Now that said, do you still have a reason to worry?

Yeah, because the violence that follows drugs and gang activity is not exclusive to drug and gang activity.

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FaustusC t1_iyjjej0 wrote

Then do your civic duty and report them :)

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Maldonian t1_iyhtxmm wrote

Or we could try doing this crazy thing called keeping criminals in jail.

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valleyman02 t1_iyhvm4s wrote

I'm for that too. Especially the violent criminals. People that have shown violence Time after Time. We should put them on a pretty short leash.

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Maldonian t1_iyhzsg5 wrote

Exactly. I'm not sure how many chances we should give people who repeatedly behave violently. Perhaps more than zero, but certainly less than ten.

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Feisty-Shopping6326 t1_iyhty0r wrote

New Hampshire has some of the lowest gun crime in the USA, if there were no fire arms involved he most likely would’ve found another way of going about it.

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valleyman02 t1_iyhvapt wrote

I'm not sure that's true anymore. I know crime and murder and homicide and suicide are way up since covid. We have a higher homicide rate with weapons than Massachusetts does. Mass does have higher crime stats and violence. But with gun homicides we were like three times the rate of Massachusetts. And our low numbers do skew this cuz we're such a low population compared to Massachusetts. I'm not saying I have the answers. but it's pretty clear we have a problem. We're literally the only country in the world that has regular school and mass shootings.

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FatherOfTheVoid t1_iyihix7 wrote

> I'm not sure if that's true anymore

Then find some sources to backup your argument

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SomeSortofDisaster t1_iyhpv22 wrote

A murder suicide is a triple murder?

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valleyman02 t1_iyhqcp0 wrote

Yeah I meant double homicide of the year thanks for correcting me I fixed it.

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SomeSortofDisaster t1_iyhqpiz wrote

A suicide is a murder?

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valleyman02 t1_iyhrl9d wrote

I never said murder. I said homicide by gun. So you're right it's one murder and one suicide. Two lives lost because a gun nut decided that a gun was the answer. And as a gun owner. Guns are never the answer. Guns are for sport not murder unless you're in the army. We have way too many people that think guns are the answer for violence. When really they're just part of the problem.

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catslapper69 t1_iyhxu9w wrote

Got a new gun last night!

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valleyman02 t1_iyib475 wrote

Cool is that an attempt to intimidate? And you kick cats as well as slap them? Inquiring minds want to know?

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FatherOfTheVoid t1_iyihqf8 wrote

Brb, gonna buy another gun and kill the neighborhood cats.

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catslapper69 t1_iyj25sb wrote

No I just felt like sharing, and I love my kitties its just a funny name

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CheliceraeJones t1_iyi3vwo wrote

Congrats! What kind?

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catslapper69 t1_iyj1wtp wrote

Thanks, got myself a sig mk25, gonna run it here in a bit should be a ton of fun!

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Reaccommodator t1_iyiwzbg wrote

Love this trolling. Very funny but like also bad ass. In a tough “I don’t care about other people’s concerns” way. Healthy, productive, and mature.

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CheliceraeJones t1_iyj5lmf wrote

I'm going to assume you meant to reply to someone else. I replied to someone else who was trolling calling them out, so if you think I'm trolling you can go ahead fuck right off.

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Reaccommodator t1_iyiw9cn wrote

Now this comment pwns… epically, sir! XD

Normally people would try and foster understanding or something constructive. But not this guy. This guy proudly loves gun and that annoys people who are concerned about people getting shot. And annoying scared people is good. Epic XD

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catslapper69 t1_iyj2fqi wrote

This whole thread is fucking pointless so I thought I would add some more useless information to it. Le epic win reddit we did it lulz

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Reaccommodator t1_iyj5vlk wrote

Exactly. It’s important to try and belittle people for showing concern about anything at all. So funny

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Dry_Distribution_628 t1_iyhpnlg wrote

You're completely unhinged and I'm glad someone like you doesn't have an interest in guns because I wouldn't want to see what the result of that would be...

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valleyman02 t1_iyhpxet wrote

I'm just sick of people dying for your freedoms you gun nut are killing humans. Fuck off.

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JennyB443 t1_iyhrwyd wrote

Interesting how anyone who voices an even slightly contrary view to yours is automatically labeled a “gun nut”. To be quite honest, not having access to a gun wouldn’t have stopped this man from killing his wife.

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valleyman02 t1_iyhsl6m wrote

It's funny so many people self identify as gun nuts. I didn't call anybody but murders a gun nut. I know a ton of guys with weapons. That have fun with weapons. That are safe with weapons. I also know of guys that shoot weapon from their trucks that shoot after dark. That are unsafe with weapons. Those are the gun nuts. Not the safe and responsible hunters.

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JennyB443 t1_iyht166 wrote

I ask you to refer to your above comment, where you may or may not have called the other commenter a gun nut.

> I'm just sick of people dying for your freedoms you gun nut are killing humans. Fuck off.

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valleyman02 t1_iyhudyx wrote

Guns are not the answer. As a gun owner I enjoy shooting. And it's always the owners that are unsafe or worse that get the attention. I get that 99% of all gun owners are safe gun owners. But we have a problem and you can't fix a problem until you admit you have one. That's all I'm saying.

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JennyB443 t1_iyhvgsb wrote

If that’s all you’re saying, might I suggest in future discussions saying that clearly (as you just did) instead? You came across very strongly as an anti-gun-for-anyone type.

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valleyman02 t1_iyhwa9e wrote

The time to be meek is over. Obviously there's a bunch of people that are fine with all the mass shootings, murders and mayhem. I'm not one of them.

Plus that guy is just a troll. You want to defend him fine.

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JennyB443 t1_iyhxfmq wrote

No one here has stated that they are “fine” with mass shootings, murder or mayhem. I have my own thoughts on what the root of the problem is, and surprisingly it isn’t guns. Guns are the most accessible tool used to perpetrate violence by those who have no respect for human life. If we didn’t have guns, it’d be knives, bombs, and any number of other weapons. Taking away guns doesn’t take away the violence, because at the end of the day it isn’t a gun problem, it’s a people problem. But God forbid our government focus on fixing its broken people and the societal issues that impact them.

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clarenceisacat t1_iyhsorz wrote

'not having access to a gun wouldn’t have stopped this man from killing his wife'

You can't possibly know that.

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JennyB443 t1_iyhsvhk wrote

Lol you can’t be serious

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clarenceisacat t1_iyhu6ql wrote

You have no idea why he did what he did and what he would or wouldn't have done in another scenario. Speculating is disgusting.

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