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Top_Solid7610 t1_j1zikvx wrote

I wonder if those bigots suing the school would support a group that advocates stripping rights away from Christians? Ban Christian marriage for example. Ban Christians from adoption. Ban Christmas trees in public areas, ban the mention of god anywhere there are children, including removing it from currency.

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[deleted] t1_j20gc3a wrote

Although I disagree with their beliefs they should be able to form a religious chapter just as other groups with different beliefs have formed chapters.

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TurretLauncher t1_j22i6it wrote

Have they formally accepted the school's policies regarding diversity, equity and inclusion? If not, the school can legally refuse to be associated with the group.

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posttheory t1_j1zsu4r wrote

So, bigots demand tolerance for their intolerance. If only some of them had heard of that guy--who was he?--who said 'whatsoever ye would that others should do unto you, do ye even so unto them.'

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WapsuSisilija t1_j20medc wrote

It's a cult. Organized religion is a cult that worships something that does not exist.

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zetterbeauty t1_j20cu1u wrote

So they’re admitting that homophobia is part of their religious beliefs.

You’d also think law school students would remember that sexual orientation and gender are protected classes.

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TurretLauncher t1_j2217yc wrote

> “You essentially have to sign a statement of faith that promotes homophobia and transphobia” to be a board member of the coalition, said Taylor Largmann, president of the campus’s chapter of the Lambda student group, which advocates for LGBTQ students. “That does not reflect UNH Law’s values. At least, I would hope not.”
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> In 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court sided with a California law school that rejected an application for recognition from the Christian Legal Society. That case hinged on a state law that required all student organizations to allow any student to participate and become an officer in a club. Hastings College of Law argued that because some students could not swear to uphold certain beliefs of the society, it would violate the “all-comers” policy for student groups.

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mmirate t1_j22fciu wrote

tl;dr the courts have been consistently giving freedom of association a big fat middle finger.

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TurretLauncher t1_j22fx8y wrote

On the contrary, they are protecting freedom of association, as these schools clearly do not wish to be associated with groups advocating bigotry.

Such groups remain free to self-organize off campus.

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mmirate t1_j22g73g wrote

UC Hastings and UNH are both public universities (i.e. part of the gov't) and therefore do not enjoy their own freedom of association.

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TurretLauncher t1_j22j5vd wrote

Have these groups formally accepted the school's policies regarding diversity, equity and inclusion? If not, the school can legally refuse to be associated with the group, as they are in violation of the school's regulations.

Same goes for K-12 schools. Students can't force their school to accept a neo-Nazi club. But students remain free to self-organize such a club off campus.

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mmirate t1_j22myf5 wrote

If this were true, then certainly a private university (which does have First Amendment rights like any private citizen and unlike the gov't itself) could have policies and regulations regarding the religion that it is the university's purpose to teach, and it could legally refuse to be associated with a group that violates them. Bizarrely, courts have recently found to the contrary.

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TurretLauncher t1_j22qzgg wrote

In the case you refer to, the school itself failed to avail itself of the opportunity to register itself as a "religious corporation," which would exempt it from prohibitions against discrimination by a place or provider of public accommodation under the New York City Human Rights Law:

> Yeshiva does not meet the definition of “religious corporation incorporated under the education law or the religious corporation law,” which would exempt it from the prohibitions against discrimination in public accommodations as an organization “deemed to be. . .distinctly private”

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> Yeshiva already recognizes LGBTQ+ student organizations at three of its graduate schools, which are legally part of Yeshiva’s corporation, has done so for over 25 years, and made clear as early as 1995 that this recognition did not mean Yeshiva endorsed or accepted the views of those student groups.

Hence,

> Yeshiva University must formally recognize an LGBTQ student group, rejecting the Jewish school's claims that doing so would violate its religious rights and values.

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