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RandomRandomPenguin t1_j1u2ww2 wrote

Reply to comment by RisksRewardsRelics in Failed meme but NH placement is precious by WoobieBee

Not even sure what you are talking about - MA is pretty much as blue as you get in the US, and is considered pretty much the most left state in all of the US. All major positions of power are occupied by democrats, and traditionally MA are first movers on major progressive pieces of legislation.

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RisksRewardsRelics t1_j1ueocy wrote

Massachusetts is the most liberal state, I’ll give you that, but…

Liberalism ≠ Leftism

Republicans have shaped policy in Mass more than anyone seems to want to admit.

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travelinlighttoparad t1_j1x4vn2 wrote

No it hasn't. You a repeating an old trope from the looney left. They are just as dumb as the MAGATS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_health_care_reform#Changes_to_the_law

On April 12, 2006, Governor Romney signed the health legislation.[23] He vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including the controversial employer assessment.[24] He vetoed provisions providing dental benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to legal immigrants who have a U.S. sponsor who is financially responsible for them.[25] The legislature promptly overrode six of the eight gubernatorial section vetoes, on May 4, 2006, and by mid-June 2006 had overridden the remaining two.[26][27]

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RandomRandomPenguin t1_j1y7r6l wrote

So is your position that there are no such thing as a left politician in the US?

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ShamanicYogi t1_j1ybr4v wrote

Ask any European what they think of American left wing politics and they’ll laugh at you.

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RandomRandomPenguin t1_j1yfd7h wrote

Sure but no one is talking about Europe. The idea that the Democratic Party in MA is anything like a centrist democrat in America makes no sense

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ShamanicYogi t1_j27jetm wrote

The point is that most European countries have a left-wing. The US does not. The Dems are center-right… center at best. The DNC has put a strong effort into shutting out the more progressive members of their party in the interest of the status quo.

In recent decades, the closest thing we’ve had to genuine left-wing American politicians at the federal level is Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard, and they’re not even that far left. Both are registered independent, not Democrat.

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RisksRewardsRelics t1_j1ya2y4 wrote

Leftist politicians certainly exist in the US, but they are most definitely not a part of mainstream American politics. That’s not my position, that is a fact.

“Although left-wing politics came to the United States in the 19th century, there are no major left-wing political parties in the United States.”

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RandomRandomPenguin t1_j1yaogm wrote

Doesn’t this idea assume there is some static scale? I don’t think that’s true at all

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mr781 t1_j1v0y8y wrote

Their power is pretty limited due to a practically permanent Democratic supermajority

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