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Yeah it's everything you dislike about Portlant, minus the beach... Also, good luck finding an apartment in Manchester for less than the GDP of Estonia.
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I'm late to the chain but even then, unless you have roommates, you're looking at 1300+ dollars for rent for fairly low end accommodations. I had a bargain at 650 a month with 3 roommates but I lived right on a highway so I did not get the best sleep
What comedy club?
Nothing to add to what this person already said. Moving from Portland to Manchester makes no sense at all for better "social" life.
Honestly, I'd say if you want to stay in NE and aren't happy with Portland but want to find someone you're gonna need to go to Mass.
Portland is where I tell people your age with your problem to go.
Manchester isn't a bad choice for NH but its just... a much shittier Portland.
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Haha, thanks I like it too.
Burlington, VT is nice (lived there for a year) and Durham/Dover/Portsmouth are nice but that's more college-y.
I'm 33 FWIW.
Yes, I've been to Burlington a lot! Very nice but it's a little far from my extended family. Also, less employment opportunities for my industry (technology and engineering).
Portsmouth is also on the list!
Yeah, OP. If you’re not finding what you want in Portland, doubt you’ll find it in Manchester with a smaller dating pool.
Think of Manchester as Portland without most of the positives. It's run down and depressing and is not heading in a good direction.
Any of the surrounding towns would be much better options.
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People in this subreddit hate on Manchester for some reasons that I don't quite understand. I've lived all over the US, including the South and Midwest, before coming to NH and Manchester is really no different from other mid-size US cities.
From my perspective, the biggest difference between Portland and Manchester is size. Manchester is almost twice as large as Portland and if you consider all of Hillsborough County, which has 400K people, you will have a lot more dating opportunities. Plus, if you are in Manchester or further south it is about an hour or less to Boston. So you should definitely have more cultural and travel opportunities.
Culturally, portland seams years ahead of manch. Def less tourist because of that.
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Check out north end of manch. Nice, wooded, bikable to downtown.
Theres also some relatively posh, new apts around.
The surrounding towns are great- for raising kids, quiet.
The airport in manch is pretty baller.
Thanks for the tips. Yes, I've flown in and out of Manchester airport many times, it's nice and usually hassle-free.
Portland is more hipster
"Old retirees, surly and unhealthy locals, and inconsiderate tourists" also describes a lot of New Hampshire unfortunately. Manchester is probably good for your age range though. As far as your politics go, nobody cares unless you make it your personality or when it comes to dating.
Manchester is fine. It has its good and bad areas. I haven't lived in big cities elsewhere but I've worked in the worst areas of Manchester and assume they're not as bad as the worst areas in places like NYC, LA and Chicago.
Lots of young professionals in Manchester and the population is only growing as more apartments pop up all over the city. The nightlife is great for a city of its size. There are fancy cocktail bars, country bars, irish pubs, dive bars. I would spend a night or two out bar-hopping on Elm St. before you decide to move here to get a taste for it. I’m personally in my mid 20s but a lot of the people I meet out on the town (besides college students) are in their late 20s or early 30s, so right around your age. Seems to be a healthy mix of liberals and conservatives but it’s hard to gauge how people lean politically, especially in a purple state such as NH. Politics aside, I’ve found people here are generally down to earth, much more so than in a place like Portsmouth for example. Huge diversity of restaurant/food options, depends what kind of cuisine you’re into. Google maps is your friend. Access to the outdoors is awesome, there are various cool parks and trails right in and outside of the city. Monadnock region is 45 minutes to the west, Atlantic Ocean is 45 minutes to the east and the Whites are just an hour north. Tourists are a non-factor. Manchester is a great place to live, but there’s nothing to really draw many tourists here at least at this time. Now for the negatives: homeless population is growing, crime is increasing, and parts of the city are rundown and depressing. Stay away from these parts and it’s not really something you ever have to worry about. Manchester is absolutely not a decaying shithole as most members of this sub would have you believe, and I think you should give it a chance.
I'd say it depends on how you plan to meet women. If your are going to meet in person in bars and clubs - Portsmouth and Manchester are your only chances in NH. I think of the two - Portsmouth might be a better choice. If you're looking for online dating - Concord is central enough to get to most parts of the state within an hour.
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Portsmouth just seems like a smaller Portland to me
I like both Portland and Manchester, but if I were single, I'd go south to a Boston suburb instead. The pro for these areas though is that it takes pride to live and work in these old mill/wharf cities, and with it, the people tend to be more fun and funny. The music and comedy scenes are both great too.
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I can understand that. Like many cities, Portland is a great place to visit. And I think you're correct about the elitism, I don't run into a lot of that in Portland.
I'm from Maine and now reside around Manchester. Stay put. You'll hate it here.
Hi there.
I'm in Manchester and can give some recommendations based on your interests. Elm street is the place to be: there's a comedy club and a traditional theatre, a ton of pubs, taphouse, and even a few game rooms.
My wife and I love the night life, and we've met people through people and even introduced people.
But we're nerds -- we do Boards & Brews, trivia nights at pubs, event nights -- depends on what you're looking for.
27M in Manchester here, I've been to Portland a few times and love it but yeah maybe only as a tourist. The way you describe it unfortunately sounds so much like Manchester unfortunately. I just moved here from Nashua. I am very social, enjoy culture and people with the same intentions. I got involved in a lot of local activities and networks. I mean I wouldn't move here for your intentions. NH is OLD and trying to find young outdoorsy energetic people is devastatingly difficult. Manchester doesn't have much culture but if you pry into the woodwork you'll find some people. It's just going to be maybe ever slightly easier than your current location. I mean so far I love the city, but it's one strip of shops and stuff downtown that's about it.
I'd go bigger and try out a big city. 30's the age to do it. I know for New England, Portland, Manchester, etc, are cities, but anywhere else on the east coast they'd be considered tiny cities or big towns.
That said, from what I've seen of Manchester, it looks much better than most places in NH to be single at 30.
It has nice spots and plenty of bars and restaurants, but as a city, it's definitely on the sad run down side.
Nah
Manchester will have what you're looking for in terms of size and opportunities to meet people, but as others have said, a lot of it will be similar to what you've found in Portland, minus access to the ocean.
I would suggest checking out Portsmouth and the surrounding area. Dover and Newmarket are worth a look, easy access to Portsmouth and the ocean but cheaper and with a younger vibe due to proximity to UNH.
New Market is nice super tiny. Seems like a nice town, but you're talking a population of like 5,000 9,000 and a tiny handful of bars and restaurants.
But I'm with you on Dover, New Market feeling a little more alive. Portland and Manchester both have the sad ghost-town vibe, like they used to be something much more than they are now.
I've had friends from out of state visit Portland with the same reaction. Saying it was a cool town, but they were wondering where all the people were. They both feel like they should have way more people out and about.
Newmarket is definitely small but has UNH the next town over, which keeps it young relative to the rest of NH. Also not too far from Portsmouth and the beach. The Stone Church and Oak House are two places lots of younger people hang out at. Dover is definitely bigger but similar situation albeit a little more working-class.
I suggest you also consider MA. I may be biased, but I think most of us can agree that your best chance at a social life would be down here. As well as Providence.
i think you should go.
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I've lived in NH for many decades, and most of it here in Manchester. The only thing, and I do mean ONLY thing Manchester has going for it is geographic location. You're an hour from Boston, an hour from the beautiful Connecticut River Valley and Vermont beyond, an hour from the Seacoast and about an hour from the White Mts. Now, what's right here? I could say a lot of unkind things but will instead say the guys who say it's Portland without the Ocean are probably close enough to the truth. The housing situation is atrocious, the various political engines that gain and lose power whether Democratic (Usually DINO "centrists") or Repugnican (No description needed at this point, I should hope) seem to be in some sort of competition to see who can mismanage the city most completely for their own benefit... I'm hoping to be out of the state by the end of January because I just can't afford to live here any more, and I have a whole lot of company. If you're already settled in a good situation then just stay where you are. You're welcome to come visit as much as you like. If you can spend more than 50 hours in this city and still think you want to live here (and no I don't mean 50 hours in bars drinking or chasing hookers, crack, Meth and Fentanyl like so many of our tourists) then by all means, come on down and Welcome to The Land Of A Thousand Dances!
I totally understand the urge to get out of a tourist destination as a resident. I came to NH to escape that vibe myself, but I'm planning to do the opposite of you, haha! I am 34 and newly single and just don't feel like there are a lot of opportunities to meet like minded people and date here in NH, but I see shows and social events all the time in Portland that I would be interested in. My problem with NH is partly that it is more conservative, and I'm super liberal/leftist. Not just politically but I feel people stick to their own here and start families earlier. If you're looking to start a family you'd probably have better luck here, especially as a not-crazy conservative yourself.
I think most people would consider Manchester to be pretty boring. It's a bit run down as well. But you can go to Concord, down to Lowell, into Boston, or into the mountains. There's not much to do but if you're ok with just hitting a sports bar on a Friday night and doing online dating you would be fine. There are NH hiking groups as well. I honestly really like living in NH but the dating/friend group thing is really my reason to get out.
Interesting. You may like Portland. I don't live in the city proper, I'm a couple towns away. To me, it's a city where it only takes a day to see all the good sights. After that, if you don't build up a social network or have a romantic partner, it gets old really fast. If you are more left-leaning, you will definitely fit in more in Portland than I do.
Southern/central New Hampshire attracts me because the cities seem a bit cleaner, and they are closer to mountainous areas. I love hiking and did a lot of it when I was in the Monadnock region.
I don't feel like Manchester is very clean or nice but its reputation is rather over the top in that direction. But the area in general I really like! I live more on the seacoast and it's really nice. But I feel like I'm too far away from mountains/good hiking here. I think a place is mostly what you make of it, but there's no harm in gameifying it a little bit- putting yourself in a location that has more like minded people or a bigger dating pool. I came here partnered and was looking forward to living in a more quiet, small town way. But now that I'm single, I would rather live in a place with a bigger dating pool and more social activities. Best of luck to you!
I love your username.
There’s a saying down there… “Manchester, where dreams go to die”. Not far from the truth in my experience.
Although I met my wife in Manchester 10 years ago so I suppose I can’t speak ill of Manchester re: dating. I was in my late 20’s back then for perspective.
The ol’ mill-city-type demographics have changed slightly since I was a kid, and more young people are making their way to the city due to more companies setting up shop there. The attractive jobs are still mostly in Boston though, so it’s by no means a Mecca for young professionals.
The bar scene has exploded. Elm St. between Bridge and Merrimack on a warm summer night is filled with people, which is a relatively new sight within the last 5 years or so. The restaurant scene, not so much. Campo was solid but has since shuttered. You can’t really compare the restaurant scene to Portland, it’s just much better up here. The SNHU arena is a joke and I’ve never seen a big name play there twice (just the big touring acts like circuses and the occasional Bud Light sponsored country band). There use to be a strong local music scene 10ish years ago, but we moved many years ago so I’m not sure anymore. Shaskeen was always a place to see cool local bands and is still around. Penuche’s on Hanover is long gone and with it a slew of great memories from that chapter of my life (RIP).
The city has done a decent job of beautifying Elm St. from Bridge to Merrimack, and the Granite St bridge gateway off of 293. However leave this area in any direction and the city can get pretty rough. I grew up on the West Side, and maybe it’s because I was born there, but I could never see us going back for any reason. The opioid problem is enormous and there doesn’t seem to be an end in sight.
We live in Portland now and love it. Plenty of green spaces, great restaurant scene, minutes from multiple beaches and we absolutely love mid-coast Maine. I’d say stick it out or move to Allston/Brighton if your looking for young people/nightlife/quality of life. For what it’s worth - we’ve lived in Portland, Boston and Manchester and we’ve been happiest here in Maine. My mother, siblings and some friends still live there so we visit semi-often, but that’s usually enough for us.
Manchester restaurant scene is so underrated. Campo will be missed but it was far from the best restaurant in the city, or even downtown. North End Bistro, Hooked/Ignite, Crown Tavern, Firefly, Industry East, and Birch on Elm when it reopens will all pick up the slack. The variety of food you can find downtown and scattered across the city is pretty amazing too. Nepalese, Indian, African, Colombian, Mediterranean, Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese, etc. I think Manchester is one of the few places in Northern New England that you can find authentic mexican food as well, like corn tortillas with nothing but meat, cilantro, onion, and maybe a side of salsa verde. The Shaskeen is also still a great place to enjoy drinks, live music, and more.
Don’t come to Manchester lol
From Manchester. I can confirm that it’s…a shittier Portland without a beach. There are still tourists but I cannot fathom why or what they’re looking for. Living outside of Manchester is just fine, but you’re an hour from the outdoor activities you like. Manchester itself has a huge breadth of culture, but a serious socioeconomic divide and opioid problem (so much so that the BBC did a documentary about it as the heroin capital of the USA). It could be great, but it’s got a long way to go to get there. There’s a steady nightlife and a few clubs. My favorite spot to eat just closed their doors, so that’s another negative to add 😂 I think you’re looking for Boston, TBH.
Not saying there still isn't a massive opioid problem in Manch Vegas, but the BBC mini-doc was published, I believe, in 2015. Manchester is, from an outsiders perspective, getting better (i.e. more private investment in housing and technology). It seems to me to be a smaller version of Dover from about 10 years ago. Dover definitely isn't Shangri La (sp?) but it's vastly improved owing to developers' investment. Some of these same developers are now eyeing Manchester as are others. I expect it to be much better in less than a decade. JMO.
Haha, the comment about tourists reminds me of when I lived in Nashua. I would see folks from away and think "What are they looking for?"
"I think you're looking for Boston, TBH". I love visiting Boston, I just don't think I could live in such a densely urbanized area. That's why I'm targeting urban areas that have smaller towns surrounding them.
I mean, it's fine. You actually might do better in Concord. Crowd feels even a little younger to me...of course I'm getting old so that might just be me. Not sure which is better in terms of housing though.
Manchester is trash! You might have better luck meeting someone online. Manchester is filled with druggies and drunks.
No. Manchester is a decaying place.
The entire country is decaying soo…
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If you're not happy with Portland I can't imagine Manchester would seem any better to you.