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chain_me_up t1_j63r5mc wrote

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I can't believe people still think Antifa is some secret organized group that constantly frames the MAGA idiots lmao. Antifa = anti fascism, why would anyone have a problem with being against fascism???

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gn84 t1_j64bg3z wrote

Why would patriotic person have a problem with the PATRIOT act????

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Glucose12 t1_j63spyq wrote

I'd ask you to define the word Fascist - but I know perfectly well that your definition is the childish "anybody who disagrees with me".

A little tip for the child - just because a group of people give themselves a name, doesn't mean their behavior is expressive of that name.

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chain_me_up t1_j63tw74 wrote

Fascism: often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

It combines elements of nationalism, militarism, economic self-sufficiency, and totalitarianism. It opposes communism, socialism, pluralism, individual rights and equality, and democratic government. Fascism places the importance of the nation above all else.

So no, my definition isn't "anyone who disagrees with me" lmao, I know how to use a dictionary and I'm also open to hearing factual information from other sides. It just so happens that "sources" like fox news or the Babylon bee are not legitimate so I don't buy into the propaganda they try to spin as facts and evidence. It's almost like when I'm presented with facts and knowledge, I can learn and potentially even change my views to match with the facts, wow!! Give it a shot sometime.

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Glucose12 t1_j63xpul wrote

So precious.

SO, to reiterate, because 1) you can parrot a definition, and 2) a certain group uses a particular name, then that means that 3) the behavior of that group actually is representative of the meaning in their chosen name?

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chain_me_up t1_j63y9qh wrote

No, but you claimed there was 5-6 antifa agents who framed the people going into the capitol. I haven't seen a single reputable source with information on this, do you have any links? I believe we're technically agreeing that claiming to be a member of a certain viewpoint doesn't mean you uphold it. But the difference is, I'm referring to your fake antifa scapegoats that you say existed to frame insurrectionists. They were not antifa members (antifa isn't a group), everyone involved in breaching the capitol is an insurrectionist. They did it for Trump and they are most certainly not against fascism, they literally tried to prop him up as a dictator.

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Glucose12 t1_j640k5v wrote

My specific wording was "Antifa/FBI/CIA". IE, "whatever".

IE, simply saying that they were people who were not part of the general milling assemblage of MAGA protesters.

IE, the instigators.

You latched on to only one word out of those three.

That says more about you. I SEEEEEE YOUUUU. :-D

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ZacPetkanas t1_j63sfay wrote

> Antifa = anti fascism, why would anyone have a problem with being against fascism???

Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea a democracy? Is the Patriot Act patriotic?

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chain_me_up t1_j63u2an wrote

Do you like fascism?

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chain_me_up t1_j63uy8p wrote

You literally just proved my point, antifa is not a group, it's a belief. Anyone can claim they are antifa (as seen by all people with their insane belief that "antifa" members snuck into the capitol to frame the insurrectionists) and create chaos. The people who entered the capitol committed treason and attempted a coup, they were Trump supporters doing whatever they could to keep their dear cheeto in office, not liberals trying to make people look bad. They WERE bad.

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ZacPetkanas t1_j63vmjg wrote

> You literally just proved my point, antifa is not a group, it's a belief.

Individuals claiming to be AntiFa can perform fascist acts and that's A-OK with you. Good to know.

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