Longjumping_Ask_4911 t1_j6kvlzz wrote on January 31, 2023 at 1:16 AM

Reply to comment by RondaArousedMe in Salem Man Pleads Not Guilty Following Weekend Shooting by [deleted]

> You don't know whether either punch was provoked or not

Did you watch the video? Hard to say a sucker punch is provoked.

> I would assume that if you follow someone out of an establishment to confront them with implied confrontation/violence that is not defending yourself. That person is looking for a confrontation and they responded with deadly force

The dude got escorted out of the bar by security. How are you going to argue he followed someone out?

RondaArousedMe t1_j6kzf2y wrote on January 31, 2023 at 1:44 AM

It was more of a sucker punch than I originally thought, didn't realize which way his face was turned when he got hit.

Sure followed is the wrong word, they both got escorted out of the bar, and the shooter is on camera threatening violence (seemingly in response to a prior altercation) and then they end up face to face in the parking lot across the street? It seems like there was intent for an altercation regardless.