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fingers t1_jcrha0v wrote

Reply to comment by koushunu in Elicker forcibly evicts and demolishes tent city by YankeeinNCandIhateit

I don't agree with this. Holding kids back is detrimental to their development. Expecting everyone to be on the same page at the same time is a horrible cultural norm we have adopted. Having teachers who understand flexibility and how to differentiate is much more effective.

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koushunu t1_jctrdk0 wrote

I know a number of people who were held back, and all but one agreed with it and said it was a good thing.

Ideally summer school is best, or after class help.

But in the current school system where i live, children are being accredited for algebra 2 when they are actually taken aside to learn fractions and other lower maths.

If you have read the studies on “no kid left behind” it hurts almost all the students.

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fingers t1_jcu69z7 wrote

https://www.understood.org/en/articles/retention-why-kids-are-held-back

https://naspcenter.org/parents/nclb_ho/

Promotion or retention: Some states or districts may determine that students who fail one or more standards tests will be retained in grade for the next year. For example, recently the state of Florida announced that over 40,000 third graders would be retained based on their failure to pass the third grade test. Other states might require summer school for students who fail to meet a criterion score on one or more of the state tests. And other states and districts may not use standards tests at all for the purpose of making promotion decisions. Because research demonstrates that retention is not an effective practice, states and districts are encouraged to base promotion decisions on more comprehensive information than standards tests alone. Knowing that a test will be used to determine promotion to the next grade places a high degree of stress on students, teachers, and parents; stress by itself can negatively affect a student?s performance on these tests!

NCLB Left so many kids behind.

Nation At Risk was horrible for the nation. https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/04/29/604986823/what-a-nation-at-risk-got-wrong-and-right-about-u-s-schools

America has never had great schools (or environment) for poor people.

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koushunu t1_jcuw8cx wrote

Funnily enough, all the ones i knew held back, were financially pretty good. And the kids who did the best in k-8 were mostly the poorest of the kids.

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fingers t1_jcv146o wrote

There are outliers. I'm an outlier. Welfare/Drug using mother. I made it out by luck.

My brother was held back a year in kindergarten. He didn't graduate high school.

We had various educational experiences. Public education. Private/Religious education. Public education. We both went to the same schools.

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