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low_effort_shit-post t1_j71poyr wrote

Reply to comment by luxtabula in Former Governor Whitman Wants to Carry Her New Party 'Forward' - Insider NJ by FragWall

I say fuck him for trying to split progressive votes. The NYC mayor thing was also stupid

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luxtabula t1_j71va3k wrote

You can't split the vote if things like ranked choice voting and mixed member districts exist. Don't you see how what you're worried about is the real problem? Yang is a flawed candidate without a doubt, but those things are actual good ideas that more should consider.

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rhubarbpitts t1_j7208vq wrote

Yeah I like some of these ideas but Yang has all the hallmarks of a grifter. He strikes me as another Krysten Sinema - put on a good show and then fleece the rubes.

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luxtabula t1_j7213t2 wrote

Ok we can say that about him and not vote for him.

But we eventually have to realize these are good ideas and they could help reform our incredibly broken system. It shouldn't be just him proposing it. None of our elected officials are pushing this. And part of the problem is we citizens have gotten used to things being broken.

Andrew Yang shouldn't be the only one seeing issues with the electoral system and trying to fix it. That's the problem. His Forward party puts pressure on our current candidates to consider this stuff or be primaried. Hopefully some of them start shifting.

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low_effort_shit-post t1_j71vqme wrote

I understand that so get rank choice in place before playing around

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luxtabula t1_j71xb54 wrote

How are you supposed to get that in place if you're not elected?

Besides, we don't need him. I never see people taking the good ideas he has and repurposing them. He shouldn't be the only one running on ideas like this, and that's the main problem.

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low_effort_shit-post t1_j71xied wrote

Talk to your current representative

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luxtabula t1_j71xmb3 wrote

I did. They're not interested in it at all.

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low_effort_shit-post t1_j71yq35 wrote

So support someone who does focus on a different level of grain

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luxtabula t1_j71z4ol wrote

You realize you're just parroting all of my points, correct?

Besides this district currently is safe for the representative, so having more people beside me making them aware of it combined with an actual spoiler candidate could make them adopt the ideas.

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specialgravity t1_j770uxr wrote

It seems like these well intentioned progressive agendas around alternative ways of counting votes always backfire. Every year California is clenching its butthole either due to their free for all primary that can result in two far right candidates if enough liberals split the votes or it’s brain dead recall system.

In NYC we saw the liberal candidates split the ticket and lead to Adams becoming the nominee. It turned out that the far left voters mostly only voted for their candidate and left the Adams alternative out to dry (I forgot these peoples names sorry). Really we wasted a lot of time and resources on possibly the same result or actually prevented an Adams alternative from being viable because the left still only wants to vote for their preferred candidate and their candidate only. Finally in Maine ranked choice helped Susan Collins get re-elected. Time and time again the left is unable to compromise while the right falls in line. I much prefer the system we have where we’re forced to choose. We may have never had Governor Murphy with ranked choice.

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